The Neural Basis of NonDuality

[TimeSeeker]

Then work on it. The "boundless but finite" idea is becoming quite mainstream in physics.

Oh, it is? Then you should have no problem pointing me to its Mathematical counter-parts?

[Atla]

Then work on it. The "boundless but finite" idea is becoming quite mainstream in physics.

Oh, it is? Then you should have no problem pointing me to its Mathematical counter-parts?

I don't know the calculations, look it up if you want

[TimeSeeker]

I don't know the calculations, look it up if you want

The first result for "boundless but finite" in Google returns a Torus. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torus
So we are still in the land of topology. You'll be happy to know that a Torus can be described with only TWO constants!

The radius of the tube and the radius of the ring. Sooooo - you can measure the arc ?

[Atla]

I don't know the calculations, look it up if you want

The first result for "boundless but finite" in Google returns a Torus. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torus
So we are still in the land of topology. You'll be happy to know that a Torus can be described with only TWO constants!

The radius of the tube and the radius of the ring. Sooooo - you can measure the arc ?

If you think that a torus is the same as the universe

[TimeSeeker]

If you think that a torus is the same as the universe

I don't have a hypothesis about the universe. I am happy with "I don't know".I am trying to get you to explain your idea in meaningful language.

It's not a circle.
Or a kleinbottle.
Or a torus.
Or any shape you can express in mathematics...

What does it look like in your head? Draw us a picture.


So far all I am hearing is "God"

[Atla]

If you think that a torus is the same as the universe

I don't have a hypothesis about the universe. I am happy with "I don't know".I am trying to get you to explain your idea in meaningful language.

It's not a circle.
Or a kleinbottle.
Or a torus.
Or any shape you can express in mathematics...

What does it look like in your head? Draw us a picture.


So far all I am hearing is "God"

You have an infinite regress hypothesis about the universe. That sounds like "God" on the other hand.

[Belinda]

If you think that a torus is the same as the universe

I don't have a hypothesis about the universe. I am happy with "I don't know".I am trying to get you to explain your idea in meaningful language.

It's not a circle.
Or a kleinbottle.
Or a torus.
Or any shape you can express in mathematics...

What does it look like in your head? Draw us a picture.


So far all I am hearing is "God"

That would be the pantheists' God.

[TimeSeeker]

You have an infinite regress hypothesis about the universe. That sounds like "God" on the other hand.

I just told you that I have NO hypothesis. That's not infinite regress - that's intellectual honesty. I don't know.

You claim that the universe is an N-dimensional "boundless and finite" object. That has apparently always existed and will always exist.

So. It has no cause. Like God.

[TimeSeeker]

That would be the pantheists' God.

Pretty much.

[Atla]

If you think that a torus is the same as the universe

I don't have a hypothesis about the universe. I am happy with "I don't know".I am trying to get you to explain your idea in meaningful language.

It's not a circle.
Or a kleinbottle.
Or a torus.
Or any shape you can express in mathematics...

What does it look like in your head? Draw us a picture.


So far all I am hearing is "God"

That would be the pantheists' God.

Don't start your idiotic comments here, Belinda.

[Atla]

You have an infinite regress hypothesis about the universe. That sounds like "God" on the other hand.

I just told you that I have NO hypothesis. That's not infinite regress - that's intellectual honesty. I don't know.

You claim that the universe is an N-dimensional "boundless and finite" object. That has apparently always existed and will always exist.

So. It has no cause. Like God.

Yeah that's your hypothesis. That something with no cause is like God. And your reasoning behind this?

[TimeSeeker]

Don't start your idiotic comments here, Belinda.

Do you even understand why Belinda said that though?

You assert that the universe has existed always and forever. It is an uncaused cause.

Like God.

[TimeSeeker]

Yeah that's your hypothesis. That something with no cause is like God. And your reasoning behind this?

Because you've conceptualised the universe as a thing without a cause.

Which is exactly the same way the theistic arguments fail.

Where did the universe come from? God made it.
Where did God come from? God always existed.

[Eodnhoj7]

If you think that a torus is the same as the universe

I don't have a hypothesis about the universe. I am happy with "I don't know".I am trying to get you to explain your idea in meaningful language.

It's not a circle.
Or a kleinbottle.
Or a torus.
Or any shape you can express in mathematics...

What does it look like in your head? Draw us a picture.


So far all I am hearing is "God"

That would be the pantheists' God.

Not necessarily if their is one universe both composed of and composed of infinite further universe as 1 absolute universe. This would equate to "the All" as a definition of God (reflected in Hermetic/Egyptian philosophy), and the multidimensional nature of consciousman under "I AM" (reflected in Judaic/Christian/Muslim and Hindu scripture (loosely)).

God as 1 and many (with many inherent within the nature of 2/dualism/even) as having a having an inherent triadic nature prerequisiting a continual synthesis.

[Atla]

Don't start your idiotic comments here, Belinda.

Do you even understand why Belinda said that though?

You assert that the universe has existed always and forever. It is an uncaused cause.

Like God.

What the fuck does that have to do with pantheism or God.