Atla wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 12:27 pm
Age wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:18 am
Is that an absolute correct truth?
Are you absolutely certain that there is no absolute footing available for us?
No, it's not, and I'm not absolutely certain of that either, as I just explained.
Okay, so, you are not absolute certain that there is no absolute footing available for us. Have I got it right now?
Atla wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 12:27 pmIf full understanding is unreachable, then there is no use in me proceeding.
Well if you are after full understanding, then you probably made some error somewhere.
I was telling you that I had explained some thing, enough times already.
I then said; 'Do I need to explain HOW again'.
To which you replied; 'What do you mean then?' and then also wrote; 'A full understanding is unreachable,'
To which I replied: 'If full understanding is unreachable, then there is no use in me proceeding'.
Meaning; If, as you say, that full understanding is unreachable, then there is NO use me, trying once again, to answer your question; What do you mean then? In other words, there is NO use you even asking me to explain what I mean, to you, if you are NEVER going to EVER fully understand me anyway. If you can NEVER fully understand me, then there is NO use me even trying to get you fully understand.
To which you then replied with the totally twisted, completely missing the mark comment; Well if you are after full understanding, then you probably made some error somewhere.
Just to make it crystal clear, it was YOU who was seeking understanding. YOU were the one who asked me the question; What do you mean then?
I was NOT seeking understanding. YOU were/are.
I have ALREADY gained FULL
understanding.
Atla wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 12:27 pmI do not think WHERE the thoughts ARE has any bearing on this
Well that's just fucking practical isn't it.
By what you say here, are you now still TRYING TO say that because thoughts are within the head, then that MEANS 'thoughts are finite'?
I do NOT see any correlation. Maybe you would like to explain how the two relate to each other?
Atla wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 12:27 pmbut let us say thoughts are within the head. Now, how does that equate to them being finite?
Also, my questions were in regards to 'thinking processes' and NOT in regards to 'thoughts, themselves,' being finite. I agree thoughts to a very high degree are finite. I was questioning does 'thinking processes' have to be finite?
Why, have you seen people with infinitely large heads?
What do you think? And, what would that even entail?
And what's the big difference between thought and thinking process?[/quote]
The actual and real difference, that is what. That difference IS one comes AFTER the other. A thinking process comes with a completely closed perspective, with a narrow, field of view, perspective, or with a completely OPEN perspective, and/or, any where in between the two extremities. That is in case you are still unaware IS the 'thinking process'. The 'thinking process' comes BEFORE the other, (just to be absolutely clear here, for you). The other one is 'thought'. You know, those things that come AFTER some kind of thinking process has already happened? A thought comes from and AFTER the 'thinking process'.
One example of A 'thinking process' IS since I already BELIEVE ''absolute certainty IS impossible" I WILL find (any) things that will support and confirm my biases and biased BELIEFS. Although this type of 'thinking process' happens sub and even unconsciously within human beings this still does happen.
One example of A 'thought', based on and arrived from that type of closed thinking process, IS "I already linked you to a page where it explains (quite clearly) that absolute certainty is impossible."
NOW, can you notice and see the difference between a 'thought' and a 'thinking process'? By the way I am not sure if it is BIG enough difference for you to notice, see, and understand. But we will see.
Atla wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 12:27 pmIf you say so. Is this an absolute truth?
I won't repeat myself again.
But I do NOT recall you EVER saying previously whether; "The fact that basically, by and large, thoughts are in the head and finite, and that, Openness has nothing to do with that "FACT", was an 'absolute truth' or NOT. Are you sure you did respond to that question directly? Are you sure you would NOT like to NOW provide us with a 'Yes' or 'No' answer?
Atla wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 12:27 pmAre there some people who really think that they have infinite thoughts?
And, are there some people who really start to talk/preach like they are/have the voice of the Universe, within them?
I wonder WHY?
It's a form of insanity, we already have a few of them on this forum.
But YOU do NOT have a form of insanity RIGHT?
ONLY "other" people have, am I CORRECT?
Atla wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 12:27 pmYou wouldn't by any chance be like them, right?
From just about nearly of ALL I say, and write down here (clearly to be observed and seen) in this forum, to some here when this is written, I would be seen as the most insane one of ALL. Which by the way, that ONE word can be seen with and from two completely different perspectives, thus giving and provide two, as you might say, BIG different answers.
By the way, is asking a person if they are like an insane person a very sane thing to do?
What kind of response do you think you would get from an insane person if you asked them; You would not, by any chance, be like an insane person, right?