Religious and Spiritual Delusions in Schizophrenia

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Veritas Aequitas
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Religious and Spiritual Delusions in Schizophrenia

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I have been arguing theism has more to do with the theists' mental conditions than there is a real God out there.

Here is one clue.
I am not claiming ALL theists are schizophrenic, rather theism has something to do with one's mental condition.
Religious and Spiritual Delusions in Schizophrenia

For many people religion is one way that we understand the world and give meaning to our lives and certainly religion and spirituality play an important part in many people’s experiences of schizophrenia.
For some sufferers religious delusions or intense religiously-based irrational thinking may be a component of their symptoms, for instance they may believe that they have been sent by God to become a great prophet.
However for other people religion and spirituality play an important role in their recovery process.
They may find that their spiritual beliefs and practices help them to make sense of the world in a way that they could not when they were suffering from psychotic delusions and that membership of a supportive faith community provides vital fellowship when faced by the everyday problems of living with a serious mental health condition.

In this series of information sheets we look at spirituality from a number of different perspectives both when it becomes a problem as in religious delusions and when it becomes a supportive component of a recovery process.

The content heading in the article are;
  • What are religious Delusions?
    How common are religious delusions in schizophrenia?
    Religiosity and psychiatry: How is religiosity diagnosed?
    Why do people with schizophrenia experience religious delusions?
    Why is religiosity significant?
    Schizophrenics in Church Communities
    What can be done about religious delusions?
https://www.livingwithschizophreniauk.o ... zophrenia/
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Re: Religious and Spiritual Delusions in Schizophrenia

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a long-term mental disorder of a type involving a breakdown in the relation between thought, emotion, and behaviour, leading to faulty perception, inappropriate actions and feelings, withdrawal from reality and personal relationships into fantasy and delusion, and a sense of mental fragmentation
So... the above is the dictionary definition for 'schizophrenia'. It seems to share many overlaps with dualism.

So here is another question you can't answer (No.5 is it? I've lost count): What is the difference between schizophrenia and dualism?
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Re: Religious and Spiritual Delusions in Schizophrenia

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TimeSeeker wrote: Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:18 am
a long-term mental disorder of a type involving a breakdown in the relation between thought, emotion, and behaviour, leading to faulty perception, inappropriate actions and feelings, withdrawal from reality and personal relationships into fantasy and delusion, and a sense of mental fragmentation
So... the above is the dictionary definition for 'schizophrenia'. It seems to share many overlaps with dualism.

So here is another question you can't answer (No.5 is it? I've lost count): What is the difference between schizophrenia and dualism?
This may help in sorting things out into acceptable order, but don’t ask me how.

That’s up to you.

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Re: Religious and Spiritual Delusions in Schizophrenia

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TimeSeeker wrote: Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:18 am
a long-term mental disorder of a type involving a breakdown in the relation between thought, emotion, and behaviour, leading to faulty perception, inappropriate actions and feelings, withdrawal from reality and personal relationships into fantasy and delusion, and a sense of mental fragmentation
So... the above is the dictionary definition for 'schizophrenia'. It seems to share many overlaps with dualism.

So here is another question you can't answer (No.5 is it? I've lost count): What is the difference between schizophrenia and dualism?
As usual you thinking in this case is very shallow and narrow.
You have to present the context.
Note there is a range of topic related to dualism;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dualism
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Re: Religious and Spiritual Delusions in Schizophrenia

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Walker wrote: Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:52 am
TimeSeeker wrote: Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:18 am
a long-term mental disorder of a type involving a breakdown in the relation between thought, emotion, and behaviour, leading to faulty perception, inappropriate actions and feelings, withdrawal from reality and personal relationships into fantasy and delusion, and a sense of mental fragmentation
So... the above is the dictionary definition for 'schizophrenia'. It seems to share many overlaps with dualism.

So here is another question you can't answer (No.5 is it? I've lost count): What is the difference between schizophrenia and dualism?
This may help in sorting things out into acceptable order, but don’t ask me how.

That’s up to you.

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I am pointing at a much more subtle point: philosophy is guilty of one particular crime. Drawing distinctions without a difference.

And so, to call something "disorder" you must distinguish it from "order". To call something "illness" you must distinguish it from "health".
To call something "inappropriate" you must distinguish it from "appropriate". To call something "faulty" you must distinguish it from "flawless".

In statistical mechanics it's called a baseline. You can't draw ANY distinctions without a baseline. And the only baseline any INDIVIDUAL has is their own experience ;)
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Veritas Aequitas wrote: Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:54 am As usual you thinking in this case is very shallow and narrow.
You have to present the context.
Well, then interpret my meaning in the deepest and widest sense, and in the broadest context possible.

Because that is how I meant it.

Principle of charity or something ;)
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"Drawing distinctions without a difference."
That just sounds like word-play.
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Walker wrote: Sun Oct 21, 2018 9:04 am
"Drawing distinctions without a difference."
That just sounds like word-play.
Naturally. That's the essence of philosophy.

Which is why the empirical/demonstrative is lost in language ;)

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