seeds wrote: ↑Tue Oct 16, 2018 8:36 pm
What aspect of one of my prior statements (repeated below) did you not understand?:
seeds wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:20 am
...there is a delicate balance that exists between feeding us “just enough” information about the afterlife to give us a sense of hope, while not revealing the absolute truth of our destiny in such a manner that might cause us to long for it or seek it out prematurely.
In other words, for the sake of maintaining the integrity of the illusion of objective reality, “evidence” (as in irrefutable proof of the existence of God and of the truth of our ultimate destiny) is forbidden.
The idea of God emerged out the terrible desperate psychological impulses from an existential crisis. It is a defense mechanism to soothe those terrible existential pains.
It the same defense mechanism that rejects evidence because any justified evidence will shattered that psychological comfort/security established blindly.
This is why some believers will even kill [with sanction from their illusory God] others when critiques and evidences are provided to counter their beliefs which they cling blindly as a security blanket. This is so obvious and you cannot deny it.
Again, Veritas, you are sleep-walking, and I honestly don’t know what to do or say to wake you up.
Furthermore, I am not completely certain that you should be woken up, for you are serving a useful purpose in your passionate exposé of Islam.
From my perspective...
(and to slightly paraphrase something I wrote about the author Sam Harris)
...you, Veritas, are part of a demolition crew that is helping to tear-down the dilapidated edifices of the “old paradigm” religions – especially Islam.
The problem is that a demolition crew is usually followed by a construction crew with blueprints for something new and better.
You, however, seem to offer absolutely nothing but the perennial materialistic fare that implies that life is basically meaningless with no ultimate purpose for us as individuals – (hence my earlier accusation of nihilism).
Now I completely understand and agree with the need to purge our collective consciousness of ancient and obvious nonsense.
However, if you truly expect billions of humans to not only relinquish the “hope” that there may be more to life than the few fleeting moments we spend on earth, but also to blindly accept the ridiculous idea that the unfathomable order of the universe simply came into existence on its own accord (by chance),...
...then you are being absurd and unreasonable.
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Those who has 'hopes' of an eternal life [an illusion] is driven by the desperate existential psychological elements to cling to such an illusion of a real God.
The point is the inherent unavoidable existential crisis is real which fortunately can be soothed by merely believing in anything "workable" which include the illusory idea of a real-God. Theism is the easiest way to soothe the terrible existential pains and it works.
But the down side with such an easy method is the terrible evil and violent acts when that savior-God is crowned with evil elements that induced SOME evil prone believers to carry out their supposed divine duty and resulting in real terrible evil and violent acts. This is empirically proven notably with Islam and its ideology and much less with other religions.
Note this one stats [
subject to refinement] among others;
Sleep-walking, being absurd and unreasonable??
My solid base is I start with real justified empirical evidences of terrible evil and violent acts [religious related] (that is happening almost on a daily basis) and do the necessary research to trace these evil elements to its root causes.
How else do you expect to provide solid sound justifiable arguments?
I would argue you are actually [as a matter of fact] on a delusional trip in believing in an illusory God to subliminally soothe your inherent existential crisis.
As I had stated ALL humans are embedded with the inherent and unavoidable existential crisis. The majority resorted and clung to theism and its promise of salvation merely on the basis of believing in a God.
As a Control, note the Buddhists and the Jains are on the religious path but having understood the real basis of the existential crisis deliberately avoided the potentially evil laden theistic path.
Some other non-theists resort to other secular methods including drugs, alcohol, opioids, other escapism methods, etc. to relieve the existential pains.
