All I said was that on four occasions during Obama's presidency, the US economy grew by more than the 4.1% that Trump is boasting about. Which is true.
There's really no need.
Notice how the essential question of freedom vs. statist slavery is no longer the issue. It has degenerated into the attack and defense of Trump. This degeneration is encouraged so as to avoid depth of thought which gets in the way of the blame game.With this background in mind, here are 5 reasons we play the blame game.
1. Blame is an excellent defense mechanism. Whether you call it projection, denial, or displacement, blame helps you preserve your sense of self-esteem by avoiding awareness of your own flaws or failings.
2. Blame is a tool we use when we’re in attack mode. Falling into the category of a destructive conflict resolution method, blame is a way to try to hurt our partners.
3. We’re not very good at figuring out the causes of other people's behavior, or even our own. The attributions we make, whether to luck or ability, can be distorted by our tendency to make illogical judgments. And we're just as bad at making judgments involving the blameworthiness of actions in terms of intent vs. outcome.
4. It’s easier to blame someone else than to accept responsibility. There’s less effort involved in recognizing your contributions to a bad situation than in accepting the fact that you're actually at fault, and changing so you don't do it again.
5. People lie. As my colleague, Robert Feldman, discovered, “Everybody lies.” It’s pretty easy just to lie and blame someone else even though you know you’re at fault. You may figure that no one will know it was really you who spilled coffee all over the break room, so you just blame someone else who’s not there (and hope that person never finds out).
In your right hand, you have Trump in office for two years, winning.
Exactly.
Okie-dokie.
Well, it was you who said:
"Back on topic." Anyway, turns out that Trump's response to the looming threat to the nation's future is to cut education spending by $9 billion. https://www2.ed.gov/about/overview/budg ... tsheet.pdfWalker wrote: ↑Thu Oct 04, 2018 11:06 amBack on topic:“Education: A new survey finds that only a third of Americans could pass the U.S. Citizenship test. It's a dismal testament to the abject failure of the country's education system. And a looming threat to the nation's future.”Education – Take control of what people read and listen to us“ take control of what children learn in school.
If the people are kept ignorant then they will be easier for the church and conservative media to control. Orwell and Huxley saw it coming.uwot wrote: ↑Thu Oct 04, 2018 8:29 pm"Back on topic." Anyway, turns out that Trump's response to the looming threat to the nation's future is to cut education spending by $9 billion. https://www2.ed.gov/about/overview/budg ... tsheet.pdf
Greta wroteFrom the Eight Steps to Socialism:
5) Welfare — Take control of every aspect of their lives (Food, Housing, and Income).
6) Education — Take control of what people read and listen to — take control of what children learn in school.
7) Religion — Remove the belief in the God from the Government and schools.
Notice how Greta is unconcerned with freedom. It has already been sacrificed to promoting secular Progressive education and globalization. Welfare, education, and religion have been lumped into indoctrination into serving the secular progressive agenda. The goal of independence has devolved into dependence. Education has devolved into indoctrination and religion has devolved into political correctness. Freedom isn’t considered important and just gets in the way of the goal of statist slavery.Education at this point of development and globalisation is key to future prosperity. However, education for whom?
I wonder if the humanism that is appropriate for many large societies can work with gigantic populations like in the US? Their society is fragmenting under growing divisions. Looking globally and historically, all of the giant populations seem to be built upon a large mass of "proles" - the uneducated poor. Dictatorships and oligarchies. When a society becomes very large it may be inevitable that they develop this disadvantaged rump on which the well-to-do rely just as they once needed farm animals. If it's happening even in a very rich and advanced society like the US I expect it's inevitable without focused countermeasures.
So, you throw out some number that you don't understand, don't think about it, wait for others to analyze it, then pick at the analysis while picking your nose.uwot wrote: ↑Thu Oct 04, 2018 8:29 pm Anyway, turns out that Trump's response to the looming threat to the nation's future is to cut education spending by $9 billion. https://www2.ed.gov/about/overview/budg ... tsheet.pdf
Obama’s economic prosperity plan:
Greta wrote:Saul Alinsky and his "community organizing" methods and philosophy have had a profound influence on the politics of the United States. Recent history would suggest that this influence is just short of catastrophic.
Alinsky's book, "Rules for Radicals," published in 1971 still has enormous effects on our country today. Hillary Clinton wrote her Wellesley College thesis on Alinsky, interviewing him personally for her research. After her graduation Alinsky offered her a job with his organization, which she refused to pursue other opportunities. President Obama worked for Alinsky organizations and taught seminars in Alinsky tactics and methodology during his "community organizing" period in Chicago. Michelle Obama echoed Alinsky’s words in her speech at the Democratic Convention.
Michelle Obama:
“Barack stood up that day,” talking about a visit to Chicago neighborhoods, “and spoke words that have stayed with me ever since. He talked about “The world as it is” and “The world as it should be…”
And, “All of us driven by a simple belief that the world as it is just won’t do – that we have an obligation to fight for the world as it should be.”
Saul Alinsky, “Rules for Radicals,” Chapter 2:
“The means-and-ends moralists, constantly obsessed with the ethics of the means used by the Have-Nots against the Haves, should search themselves as to their real political position. In fact, they are passive-but real-allies of the Haves … The most unethical of all means is the non-use of any means … The standards of judgment must be rooted in the whys and wherefores of life as it is lived, the world as it is, not our wished-for fantasy of the world as it should be.“
Alinsky is making a strong case in this quote for the abandonment of morals and ethics as nothing but impediments to political success. For Alinsky, as for Michelle and Barack Hussein Obama, morality and ethics prevent the world from being what “it should be.” The Alinsky end game is likely a global utopia in which the “people” have “power.” Unfortunately, this utopianism has been the foundation of several über-violent movements of the last century which have resulted in over 100 million deaths.
Alinsky’s dedication of “Rules for Radicals” to Lucifer is easily understood; as a champion of amorality and the abandonment of ethics as nothing more than props that sustain the status quo Lucifer is the perfect model of the destroyer for the activist Alinsky. The fact that our top political leadership has embraced this amoral set of tactics for political gain should cause all Americans concern.
There is no utopia; those who have strived to make the impossible real, to implement their grand visions of life have been the agents of death and destruction on a scale surpassed only perhaps by Islam. Alinsky, like the Koran, Sira, and Hadith, represents morality turned upside down or abandoned entirely in favor of cold pragmatism.
This is typical Alinsky. Community organizing relies on causing the problems Trump is being accused of.Trump and his drones would appear to be a conduit for a Zeitgeist based at least in part on physics. The more hot and active an object the more energy is needed to bring it to order. I think the US is on the verge of bringing their governance a step or two towards the style of other giant nations like China and Russia (and India in terms of underhanded dealings). The first step is to shake off governmental accountability bit by bit.
Imagine snowflakes gathered together for the sake of creating heaven on earth through destruction and statist slavery. Unfortunately the young having been inflicted with spirit killing and political indoctrination become what you have seen on TV. They have no conception of the value of striving for freedomWe live in a time of unprecedented domestic upheaval and not any that has been brought upon us by circumstances or international conflagrations but because our Alinsky-influenced, post-modern leadership believes that conflict and struggle is the path to human evolution.
The Obama administration is the embodiment of the failure of politics because it is not about politics - politics involves concession and compromise - it is about victory at any cost. The American people expected hope and change, as that is what they voted for but what they really wanted was stability and prosperity.This is something that conservatives generally have a hard time understanding. As a former radical, I am constantly asked how radicals could hate America and why they would want to destroy a society that compared to others is tolerant, inclusive and open, and treats all people with a dignity and respect that is the envy of the world. The answer to the this question is that radicals are not comparing America to other real world societies. They are comparing America to the heaven on earth - the kingdom of social justice and freedom - they think they are building. And compared to this heaven even America is hell." (Horowitz, pp.16-17, Barack Obama's Rules for Revolution: The Alinsky Model)"Thus Alinsky begins his text by telling readers exactly what a radical is. He is not a reformer of the system but its would-be destroyer. In his own mind the radical is building his own kingdom, which to him is a kingdom of heaven on earth. Since a kingdom of heaven built by human beings is a fantasy - and impossible dream- the radical's only real world efforts are those which are aimed at subverting the society he lives in. He is a nihilist.
The United States was founded upon the concept that “the people” rule not the elites; that is why there are checks and balances built into our system of government. The Alinsky followers, now that they hold the levers of power, are seeing a popular opposition to their endless agitations. The rise of the Alinskyites has been a rude awakening for most Americans, but it has also energized a vocal opposition.
We must return to our roots, our moral, ethical and legal roots, Constitution and Bill of Rights. We must see ourselves in an historical context which the Harvard and Yale dhimmis in positions of authority will not. Our culture and our country are of great value and are worth protecting and saving. We live in a confused time, but the confusion is clearing away; it is clearing away through knowledge and understanding of the motivations of those in power.
The Alinsky ideology of nihilism and deconstruction must be repudiated. Those who are his sycophants and fellow travelers must be exposed and shamed for waging war on their own country and their own people in the name of Utopianism and endless struggle.
Our purpose is to learn through the slow, but sound, evolutionary process of trial and error, and to preserve the Constitution its sovereignty over this great land. If our leaders do not concur, if they seek to shortcut the natural process or disrupt the rule of law, they must be voted out or impeached..........................
Alinsky’s self-identification of Frank Nitti the mobster killer as his "professor" is important. In retrospect one can speculate that Alinsky learned a great deal about pressure and intimidation from his friends in the Chicago mob.
But even more enlightening is that the mob killer Nitti is the anti-thesis of what America is about; amorality and criminality were what Alinsky apparently found so fascinating about Nitti and his gang- they beat “the system” which Alinsky saw as just as corrupt or equally so to the Capone/Nitti gangsters.
This abandonment of morality and ethics and in fact, the identification of morality and ethics as impediments, would become a theme with Alinsky. The two years of training with “Professor” Nitti would reap huge rewards for Alinsky over time. But what it has left as a legacy for this country is a disaster as Alinsky’s followers took this abandonment of morals and ethics as a serious lesson; nothing is excluded as far as tactics and strategy are concerned - this is the lesson of the “professor.”
Alinsky's abandonment of morality and ethics is not difficult to demonstrate. "Rules for Radicals" is dedicated to Lucifer, the rebel against God's rule and great destroyer of Christian ideology.
So did Frank Meyer, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Mey ... ilosopher) You are quite right; American conservatism, as everyone outside America knows, is funded by plutocrats and corporations. What they do is persuade social, traditional and religious conservatives that their interests are only safe in the hands of economic libertarians.Greta wrote: ↑Thu Oct 04, 2018 11:34 pmIf the people are kept ignorant then they will be easier for the church and conservative media to control. Orwell and Huxley saw it coming.uwot wrote: ↑Thu Oct 04, 2018 8:29 pm"Back on topic." Anyway, turns out that Trump's response to the looming threat to the nation's future is to cut education spending by $9 billion. https://www2.ed.gov/about/overview/budg ... tsheet.pdf
Ivy League students mostly; the children of plutocrats. They all get to meet one another and are taught how to fleece the hoi polloi.
It's a two party state. The fusionists have whipped the country into a hysterical frenzy by making it 'us or them'.
Well yeah. When Nixon took the US out of the Gold Standard, one of the effects was that collateral for loans moved from Fort Knox to the population. Literally the collateral for the US national debt (and the UK's for that matter) is the promise that generations of Americans will spend a part of their working week just making the money to pay the descendants of the plutocrats and corporations that own them. Tax is increasingly about paying debt and the economic libertarians are doing everything they can to reduce the tax spent on everything apart from debt, so that they can increase the debt, which means more money for them.Greta wrote: ↑Thu Oct 04, 2018 11:34 pmLooking globally and historically, all of the giant populations seem to be built upon a large mass of "proles" - the uneducated poor. Dictatorships and oligarchies. When a society becomes very large it may be inevitable that they develop this disadvantaged rump on which the well-to-do rely just as they once needed farm animals.
With any luck America will come to its senses so that we won't see idiots like Hilary Clinton buying into the madness and calling Trump supporters "a basket of deplorables".
Have a look at how many Americans view government. They're way beyond step one.Greta wrote: ↑Thu Oct 04, 2018 11:34 pmTrump and his drones would appear to be a conduit for a Zeitgeist based at least in part on physics. The more hot and active an object the more energy is needed to bring it to order. I think the US is on the verge of bringing their governance a step or two towards the style of other giant nations like China and Russia (and India in terms of underhanded dealings). The first step is to shake off governmental accountability bit by bit.
