Where does 'Religious Knowledge' orginate from?

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Re: Where does 'Religious Knowledge' orginate from?

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Dontaskme wrote: Mon Oct 01, 2018 7:58 am
Veritas Aequitas wrote: Mon Oct 01, 2018 7:47 amYou are the same as the evil prone believers who believe in the absolute [God] as real when in reality that absolute God is a fake [illusory, illusion] driven by psychological desperation.
So now I'm an evil prone believer am I ?

Is that what you believe?
You are getting cranky here.

I stated your mental process of believing is the same but different in form, note the full context;
You are the same as the evil prone believers who believe in the absolute [God] as real when in reality that absolute God is a fake [illusory, illusion] driven by psychological desperation.

Fortunately the absolute God you believed is real do not deliver holy commands that compel you to kill if your belief is threatened.
Even then you are already lashing out at me emotionally when I am trying to discuss the truth of the issue, i.e. that absolute is a fake!
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Veritas Aequitas wrote: Mon Oct 01, 2018 8:33 am
Fortunately the absolute God you believed is real do not deliver holy commands that compel you to kill if your belief is threatened.
Even then you are already lashing out at me emotionally when I am trying to discuss the truth of the issue, i.e. that absolute is a fake!

Alright, so then its not God delivering the holy command to compel you to kill others.

It's the belief in the belief there is a God that doesn't exist compelling you to kills others?

Is that right?

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So the question is, if I knew that the belief in the belief there is a God that doesn't exist except for the belief it does was realised to be just a false belief (lie)...then would I still want to kill others for their beliefs?

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Dontaskme wrote: Mon Oct 01, 2018 9:05 am
Veritas Aequitas wrote: Mon Oct 01, 2018 8:33 am
Fortunately the absolute God you believed is real do not deliver holy commands that compel you to kill if your belief is threatened.
Even then you are already lashing out at me emotionally when I am trying to discuss the truth of the issue, i.e. that absolute is a fake!

Alright, so then its not God delivering the holy command to compel you to kill others.

It's the belief in the belief there is a God that doesn't exist compelling you to kills others?

Is that right?

So the question is, if I knew that the belief in
the belief there is a God that doesn't exist except for
the belief it does was realised to be just a false belief (lie)...
then would I still want to kill others for their beliefs?
I stated fortunately the God you believed in do not issue commands to you to kill others.
But nevertheless in defending the God you believed in [which is a lie] you lash out at others [not killing] who critique your claims.

If you can understand and accept you are believing in a God [lie] it is not likely you will be so sensitive to the extent of lashing out at others who critique your God [a lie].
Why you are getting offensive at my criticisms is because of your psychology of security is being shaken to some degrees. [my apologies as this is inevitable in such a discussion like this].

This is why Buddhism teaches one not to cling to whatever [God -the subtle lie, or whatever] so that your deceptive mind has nothing to defend in this sense [not others] and to avoid sufferings [dukkha].
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Re: Where does 'Religious Knowledge' orginate from?

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Veritas Aequitas wrote: Tue Oct 02, 2018 3:16 am I stated fortunately the God you believed in do not issue commands to you to kill others.
But nevertheless in defending the God you believed in [which is a lie] you lash out at others [not killing] who critique your claims.
Lashing out is unavoidable in a debate where two people have opposing views on somehting, it's just a game of egos trying to win over the opponents point of view to their own side and vice versa, at least I can admit that to myself, unlike you who just takes everything personally..seriously don't cry about it baby.
Veritas Aequitas wrote: Tue Oct 02, 2018 3:16 amIf you can understand and accept you are believing in a God [lie] it is not likely you will be so sensitive to the extent of lashing out at others who critique your God [a lie].
Like I said it takes two to tango, or was that fanta?

You have no way of knowing what being me is like, or what my beliefs are and how I understand reality..so to assume you have the authority to critize something you have no way of knowing or understanding is just the work of an idiot.
Veritas Aequitas wrote: Tue Oct 02, 2018 3:16 amWhy you are getting offensive at my criticisms is because of your psychology of security is being shaken to some degrees. [my apologies as this is inevitable in such a discussion like this].
I utterly and absolutely don't give a toss about what you think. I'm secure in my own skin and know my own mind, I'm not in the slightest bit offended nor care in regard to your endless false assumptions about what you think you know about me, but don't ... its all water off a ducks back. Oh my god as if someone like you who can't possibly have any idea about the god of my own understanding can actually think you can..but what you think and believe is your own bullshit opinions, not mine.

If you believe I can be shaken by someone like you, then wow, please make sure your head doesn't explode in case it gets too big. But if that's what gets you off, then don't think for one minute your obvious intimidating demeanor has any impact on me...the only impact it has on me is that your stupidity has me rolling on the floor laughing my head off at your unbelievable self righteous arrogance, in believing you could ever have such power to assume I am wrong about my own inner reality that is unique to me only.
Veritas Aequitas wrote: Tue Oct 02, 2018 3:16 amThis is why Buddhism teaches one not to cling to whatever [God -the subtle lie, or whatever] so that your deceptive mind has nothing to defend in this sense [not others] and to avoid sufferings [dukkha].
Your so clueless, how do know I'm clinging to something? your so mind numbingly boring predictable clichéd same old conceptual responses that you endless repeat over and over again assuming no one else knows their own mind except you.

Just so you know, I've never clinged to anything in my entire life, I'm one of those types that will let go. I do this because I understand the nature of reality, and I know the nature of reality because, well, I just do, and that's all there is to it.

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I am also slowly letting go. I no longer am afraid of death. I do not participate no more merely observe
I am not interested in being dogmatic or opinionated. I only focus my energy on things which affect me
All this is mental preparation for the inevitable transition between consciousness and non consciousness
Were there a pain less method I would probably go right now but I am patient and will leave it to Nature
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Dontaskme wrote: Tue Oct 02, 2018 2:58 pm Your so clueless, how do know I'm clinging to something? your so mind numbingly boring predictable clichéd same old conceptual responses that you endless repeat over and over again assuming no one else knows their own mind except you.

Just so you know, I've never clinged to anything in my entire life, I'm one of those types that will let go. I do this because I understand the nature of reality, and I know the nature of reality because, well, I just do, and that's all there is to it.
The evidence is so obvious which is reflected in the psychological state of clinging from you are postings.

There are various degrees conscious and subconscious [subliminal] clinging.
In your case you are entrapped within very subliminal [subconscious] clinging more likely supraliminal and that is reflected in what you are expressing including lashing out at those who counter your views.

Btw, in basic terms, do you understand the topic of subliminal [unconscious] thoughts.
Subliminal stimuli (/sʌbˈlɪmɪnəl/) (the prefix sup- literally "below, or less than", while the prefix sub- literally "up to"),[1] contrary to supraliminal stimuli or "above threshold", are any sensory stimuli below an individual's threshold for conscious perception.[2]

A recent review of functional magnetic resonance imaging (fMRI) studies shows that subliminal stimuli activate specific regions of the brain despite participants being unaware.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subliminal_stimuli
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surreptitious57 wrote: Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:44 pm I am also slowly letting go. I no longer am afraid of death. I do not participate no more merely observe
I am not interested in being dogmatic or opinionated. I only focus my energy on things which affect me
All this is mental preparation for the inevitable transition between consciousness and non consciousness
Were there a pain less method I would probably go right now but I am patient and will leave it to Nature
Agree with that. Good advice.
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Re: Where does 'Religious Knowledge' orginate from?

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Veritas Aequitas wrote: Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:23 am
Dontaskme wrote: Tue Oct 02, 2018 2:58 pm Your so clueless, how do know I'm clinging to something? your so mind numbingly boring predictable clichéd same old conceptual responses that you endless repeat over and over again assuming no one else knows their own mind except you.

Just so you know, I've never clinged to anything in my entire life, I'm one of those types that will let go. I do this because I understand the nature of reality, and I know the nature of reality because, well, I just do, and that's all there is to it.
The evidence is so obvious which is reflected in the psychological state of clinging from you are postings.

There are various degrees conscious and subconscious [subliminal] clinging.
In your case you are entrapped within very subliminal [subconscious] clinging more likely supraliminal and that is reflected in what you are expressing including lashing out at those who counter your views.

Btw, in basic terms, do you understand the topic of subliminal [unconscious] thoughts.
Subliminal stimuli (/sʌbˈlɪmɪnəl/) (the prefix sup- literally "below, or less than", while the prefix sub- literally "up to"),[1] contrary to supraliminal stimuli or "above threshold", are any sensory stimuli below an individual's threshold for conscious perception.[2]

A recent review of functional magnetic resonance imaging (fMRI) studies shows that subliminal stimuli activate specific regions of the brain despite participants being unaware.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subliminal_stimuli
The only thing there is to cling onto here is your own opinions. You cling to yours and I cling to mine.

In my opinion - You are still absolutely clueless as to what you think you know about what I know from my own direct experience.

My direct experience is in no way shape or form dependant on your validation or approval. Who the heck are you to know me?

This is what confuses me about you. To think you know what another person is directly experiencing, when you clearly have no clue but your own opinionated interpretation which has no foundation for truth.
Are you trying to convince me I am wrong? how would you know unless you were me ?

My claim that reality is an infinite hallucination is verifiable. But only you can verify it, because there is nothing other than your first person appearances so there's nothing outside of appearances you can appeal to.
I cannot prove it to you because the whole problem here is that you are not conscious of what I am.
If you realised that I was you, you would have your proof.
But you think I am not you.

It takes a massive leap in consciousness to realise that I am you.
It takes another massive leap in consciousness to realise that you are nothing.
It takes another massive leap in consciousness to realise that you are reality.
so keep on clinging to your opinion with all your mighty - and I will do same, if its all the same to you, albeit appearing different.

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Veritas Aequitas wrote: Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:25 am
surreptitious57 wrote: Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:44 pm I am also slowly letting go. I no longer am afraid of death. I do not participate no more merely observe
I am not interested in being dogmatic or opinionated. I only focus my energy on things which affect me
All this is mental preparation for the inevitable transition between consciousness and non consciousness
Were there a pain less method I would probably go right now but I am patient and will leave it to Nature
Agree with that. Good advice.
Pity you don't put that advice into actuality.
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Veritas Aequitas wrote: Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:23 amBtw, in basic terms, do you understand the topic of subliminal [unconscious] thoughts.
Subliminal stimuli (/sʌbˈlɪmɪnəl/) (the prefix sup- literally "below, or less than", while the prefix sub- literally "up to"),[1] contrary to supraliminal stimuli or "above threshold", are any sensory stimuli below an individual's threshold for conscious perception.[2]

A recent review of functional magnetic resonance imaging (fMRI) studies shows that subliminal stimuli activate specific regions of the brain despite participants being unaware.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subliminal_stimuli
What has MRI images got anything to do with .. ''Where does 'Religious Knowledge' orginate from?' ''

Please explain?
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