Proof that God IS ..in 6 words.

[Dontaskme]

There is no world except in this conception.

Who conceives ?

So are you so delusional that you don't see human conception as part of the world?

So are you so delusional that you don't see god conception as part of the world.

You previously asked 'why call it god'?

[Atla]

There is no world except in this conception.

Who conceives ?

So are you so delusional that you don't see human conception as part of the world?

So are you so delusional that you don't see god conception as part of the world.

You previously asked 'why call it god'?

You really have no sense of objective reality huh.

[Dontaskme]

So are you so delusional that you don't see human conception as part of the world?

So are you so delusional that you don't see god conception as part of the world.

You previously asked 'why call it god'?

You really have no sense of objective reality huh.

What's objective reality got to do with God?

[Atla]

So are you so delusional that you don't see god conception as part of the world.

You previously asked 'why call it god'?

You really have no sense of objective reality huh.

What's objective reality got to do with God?

That's what I was asking. Why call it God?

[Dontaskme]

You really have no sense of objective reality huh.

What's objective reality got to do with God?

That's what I was asking. Why call it God?

Who calls it god?

[Lacewing]

Good day,

A temporary manifestation is an outward projection, a surface appearance of a much deeper reality, go deeper to who or what is projecting?

These are human concepts. What do you think is "outward" and "surface" and "deeper"? Your words are loaded with what you think, yet you keep denying your own thinking and projections.

you have avoided answering the original question directly.

No, I didn't, DAM -- I answered everything directly. I am questioning your communication when it is at odds with what you are claiming. You usually ignore these points, and skip back to claiming.

If the act of preceiving is not a God ..then what is perceiving, can that one be perceived, and by what, and whom?
A human is not the perceiver, a human is perceived..who is the perceiver?

First, "perceiving" is a human concept. Second, why is any "who or what" ever identified as a god?

Do you think that what you see/"know" is of more significance and value than what anyone else sees/"knows"?

We only know what we know. To know ''another'' can only be possible because I first know myself.

You're not answering the question. I asked because you have told people to "find" what you are speaking of. And you've indicated that people are lost or blind if they don't see what you are speaking of. Why do you tell them that, unless it's because you think that what you see/know is of more significance and value than what they see/know?

Sometimes you recognize/acknowledge humanness (in yourself/others), other times you seem to deny it, and almost detest it -- is that some kind of personal battle for you?

For the I to know anything, the I has to be present...knowledge is an appearance within unknown presence, aka the known.

Again, you're not answering the question. Why are you resistant to acknowledging what you say and do? You write the posts and you make the projections and then you say no one did it. Yet you acknowledge that you are sharing from your perspective -- so there's "someone" when you want to share, but there's "no one" when you are questioned about what you just shared. Can you see how shifty and manipulated that appears?

If all is one/connected/of-God, why do you need to tell people to be what they already are?

One cannot tell you what you are, only what you are not...

Really?... one doesn't know what you are, but knows what you're not?? Do you just make any weird contrary claim that pops into your head, so that you can be untouchable by reason?

Again, back to the question: Why do you need to tell people of THAT WHICH THEY ALREADY ARE? If you truly embrace nondualism, and if you agree that the only illusion is separateness.

How do you know what one/connected/of-God is SUPPOSED to be/look-like?

That's like saying what does a blank screen look like? ..or what does awareness look like? or what does being look like?

Yes, it is! So, the reason I asked the question is because you say things that suggest that you know WHAT THAT IS AND LOOKS LIKE -- and that's why you're able to tell other people about it. IF IT'S ALL ONE, how does it make sense that you would know what the ONE is in such a way that you are compelled to tell others about it as if they are unknowing and separate? That's not consistent with nondualism.

[Dontaskme]

You really have no sense of objective reality huh.

What's objective reality got to do with God?

That's what I was asking. Why call it God?

Who is the I that names itself, who asks a question why do I name this I?

Notice we all say I know...we never say the christian name knows?

The christian name is known, can that which is known..know?

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[Atla]

What's objective reality got to do with God?

That's what I was asking. Why call it God?

Who calls it god?

Reflex wrote: "classical theism 101: God does not exist but is existence itself (not a being but being itself)."

And you wrote: "Proof that God IS ..in 6 words."

Why call it God?

[Dontaskme]

That's not consistent with nondualism.

Lacewing, do you understand Advaita Vedanta aka Nonduality and what it is pointing to?

[Lacewing]

That's not consistent with nondualism.

Lacewing, do you understand Advaita Vedanta aka Nonduality and what it is pointing to?

I have not studied that, but I'm intimately familiar with the concept of oneness. Why? How would this make any difference to the questions I asked you... and the things I pointed out?

[Dontaskme]

That's what I was asking. Why call it God?

Who calls it god?

Reflex wrote: "classical theism 101: God does not exist but is existence itself (not a being but being itself)."

And you wrote: "Proof that God IS ..in 6 words."

Why call it God?

Name calling is of the mind (a thing known) What can the mind do with no thing?

To make a thing known, ONE first has to be to know it.

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[Atla]

Who calls it god?

Reflex wrote: "classical theism 101: God does not exist but is existence itself (not a being but being itself)."

And you wrote: "Proof that God IS ..in 6 words."

Why call it God?

Name calling is of the mind (a thing known) What can the mind do with no thing?

To make a thing known, ONE first has to be to know it.

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Evading the question I see

[Dontaskme]

That's not consistent with nondualism.

Lacewing, do you understand Advaita Vedanta aka Nonduality and what it is pointing to?

I have not studied that, but I'm intimately familiar with the concept of oneness. Why? How would this make any difference to the questions I asked you... and the things I pointed out?

Okay, Advaita Vendanta, Nonduality means there is no one to whom a question arises. Life doesn't ask questions. A question can only arise to the sense of a separate 'me' that believes it exists, the sense that there is a 'me' in here and a world out there separate from the 'me' in here.

But the 'me' in here that is believed to exist is the mind of thought. The 'me' is really awareness aware of the thought of 'me'


Advaita is pointing to that which is aware of the separate 'me' ..and that there is only the awareness of 'me' and that the 'me' has never existed apart from awareness itself.

The separate 'me' is an object in awareness. Awareness cannot experience itself as an object, because it's not an object, its not a thing. An object cannot be aware...an object is a known concept by awareness...awareness is this inconceivable conception.

Does that ring any truth with you?

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[Dontaskme]

Reflex wrote: "classical theism 101: God does not exist but is existence itself (not a being but being itself)."

And you wrote: "Proof that God IS ..in 6 words."

Why call it God?

Name calling is of the mind (a thing known) What can the mind do with no thing?

To make a thing known, ONE first has to be to know it.

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Evading the question I see

Who questions?

Does a flower question it's existence?

No thing is making life happen, happening is not happening to a thing.

Who calls a flower a flower..does the flower call itself a flower?


The mind is the name caller, and the mind is an appearance of that which is aware of the name but is not the name.

God is just another name for this ineffable isness that is everything and nothing.

Why call it god?

Why not.

Something exists, might as well call it something.



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[Lacewing]

Does that ring any truth with you?

I can see truth in that, as well as in many perspectives. That particular perspective is not something I find very interesting.

So, I get it... you think questions are meaningless unless they are aligned with what you think, and then you're all too eager to expound, right? Meanwhile, you are compelled (for some reason) to make all sorts of claims -- so is that the world you want to live in: the world of your claims? And you just want us all to bear witness, without noticing or calling attention to the inconsistencies and projections? Are you only interested in people agreeing with what you say?