Scientific Method and God

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Walker
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TimeSeeker wrote: Thu Sep 13, 2018 12:53 pm
Walker wrote: Thu Sep 13, 2018 12:42 pm Sure, it’s obvious you’re stuck on the superficial.

You are communicating with the judgement found from within your own private world.

Although it is arbaritary, the realm of six as defined by the title of that thread, to which your wink refers, serves as an objective, absolute standard of comparison for the doing of words within that realm.
Yeah. The realm of six is defined in Language. Language is open to interpretation so any claim you have to 'objectivity' falls to my postmodern methods. Because you haven't solved the symbol-grounding problem :) Language is just a tool.
Walker wrote: Thu Sep 13, 2018 12:42 pm Here, your standard for the doing of words is wholly your own, based wholly on your own self-professed ignorance of what’s going on.
No. The symbol-grounding problem breaks every language. If any such notion of "objectivity" exists. A problem is it!
Walker wrote: Thu Sep 13, 2018 12:42 pm It is you who, for some reason, find that you cannot read, comprehend, and deal with the material presented, for your postings are not based on content, or even communication.

As you said, your purpose is to mirror your personal judgments and comprehension of what you perceive.

In other words, just fuck around.
You keep strawmanning me :) You do have any mind-reading powers I am not aware of? I didn't say any of that.

My purpose is to realize my desires. With the tiny caveat that the universe is trying to kill us. So we kinda have to worry about that OBJECTIVE PROBLEM.
No, your ego just clings to control.

Surrender to the six.
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Walker wrote: Thu Sep 13, 2018 1:50 pm No, your ego just clings to control.

Surrender to the six.
Funny thing. Hospice says that to terminal cancer patients.

Seems like a defeatist attitude, but whatever. You have free will :)

P.S Prediction/control is the very promise made by science. Are you saying we should give up science?
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Hey, How are you? I'm fine, gotta run though.

Buh bye.
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Walker wrote: Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:14 pm An elemental shape is a basic shape. If I say "elemental shape" do all trig mathemeticians know what shape(s) I am talking about? Or only art students / teachers know.

Trigonometry studies basic shapes.

Does trigonometry have more to do with science, or poetry, or philosophy? I'll let you decide that, Walker. My money is on math, which is a branch of philosophy. There is a thread on that.
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You cannot prove anything by scientific method. Science only tell you what is the most probable.
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bahman wrote: Fri Sep 14, 2018 7:04 pm You cannot prove anything by scientific method. Science only tell you what is the most probable.
There is one thing science does even better! It falsifies things REALLY cheaply!

1 negative observation carries infinitely more weight than any number of positive observations.
Falsification is astronomically cheaper than 'proof'.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falsifiability
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Atla wrote: Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:29 am
Veritas Aequitas wrote: Tue Sep 11, 2018 4:38 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Mon Sep 10, 2018 3:57 pm
You are beating around the bush again
and introducing new perspective and contexts from the one I am asking from.

I would say your deflection to other context is a very stupid idea.

Say, you are 20 years old.
There is a gate with a sign "For Old People Only" [conventionally understood as above 65] to queue and avoid the long queue for example food stamps, rations, etc..
You will join the queue of older people because, to you are are also 'old' by your twisting thinking of defining yourself as 'old' and at the same time young.
You will expect other younger people to join you because they are also 'old.'
Imo the Johndoe seems to be in some kind of psychosis, probably a self-inflicted drug-induced psychosis. So his mind really automatically mixes together content from different contexts/perspectives, makes all kind of nonsensical connections between them, and he doesn't realize this at all, maybe he can't realize it. He can no longer understand contexts/perspectives like we do.
Looking back on this thread in order to consolidate notes I have found this post.

Actually, the problem of understanding context lies primarily with you.

From a premise where we quantify all existence as fundamentally 1, an inherent degree of connection occurs through this 1 and the nature of "context existing through further context" observes a problem similar to quantum entanglement as the context of one seemingly "seperate" reality is connected to another because both share a medium of "context".

Now this problem of "context" inevitably observes a form of structure where "context" is a definition of structure. In simpler terms, because one perspective/phenomenon has structure, and another phenomena/perspective also has structure, we percieved them as inherently different because of the difference in structure. However this difference of structure still shows them existing from a common bond of limit considering all phenomena as structures are composed of limits.

So where difference necessitates a form of seperation, this seperation occuring through structure observes a dual connection by structure itself. For example the fraction of 1/3 and 1/4 are different. However they are connected by the fact that they are not only fractions, as a relation of quantitative parts, but effectively observe 1 as the common denominator from which 3 and 4 extend as these numbers as divisors exist in the respect they are dividing 1 while being extensions of 1 itself. All differences observe a common bond as difference necessitates a form of opposition where one phenomena as positive and another as respectively negative form eachother and as such are interconnected.

To cycle back to the problem the problem of "context existing through context" is that this in itself is a context and we observe a fraction similar to
C/C→C where context is divided according to its projection through itself. In a seperate respect C→C/C as C→C observes a dualistic nature where context is projective in nature.

Context is directed movement whether of an abstract and/or physical nature. All context without a continuum is contradictory.

This reflects that all contexts are projective in nature and always extend beyond the previous context. In these terms we are left with all forms of reasoning as projecting towards higher forms of reasoning which inevitably lead to an inherent vagueness on part of the observer as the context which determines a common norm or set of rules is superceded by another.
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Re: Scientific Method and God

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-1- wrote: Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:13 am
Atla wrote: Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:29 am Imo the Johndoe seems to be in some kind of psychosis, probably a self-inflicted drug-induced psychosis. So his mind really automatically mixes together content from different contexts/perspectives, makes all kind of nonsensical connections between them, and he doesn't realize this at all, maybe he can't realize it. He can no longer understand contexts/perspectives like we do.
I share this. JD has a superb mind, and a high IQ, but he can't use either in our world. Your description is precise and to the point, Atla, better than how I could have worded it.

I have respect, very high respect for JD, but I put him on my Iggie list because he patently makes no sense for the precise reasons you described, Atla.
Who are you again? And what little world do you come from?
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