Life is not Religious. Life is not a Religion.

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Dontaskme wrote: Tue Aug 28, 2018 7:58 am VA.
Your last response is irrelevant to my personal experience....I’m not sure why you seem to think it is...we cannot possibly know the inner world realities of other people...but the matrix would have you pigeon holed if they can get away with it...I’m not buying that load of shit..sorry...
I did not insist with 100% confidence levels.
I am merely speculating from what I have noted in your stated experiences.
Just take it as information if it is not applicable.

Note;
People who report religious experiences may also display enhanced temporal-lobe signs.
Persinger MA.


Abstract
Religious and god-related experiences have been hypothesized to be a portion of the continuum of phenomena that are generated by endogenous, transient electrical stimulation within deep structures of the temporal lobe.
According to this hypothesis, normal people, without psychiatric history, who report intense religious experiences should also demonstrate a wide range of temporal lobe-related private behaviors. To test this prediction, a self-report inventory that contained 140 temporal-lobe-relevant information, opinion-belief, and sampled MMPI statements was administered to two separate groups (n = 108; n = 41) of male and female first-year university students. In Study I, subjects who had reported religious experiences, particularly those who did not attend church regularly, scored significantly higher on a variety of statement clusters (n = 7 to 14 items) that contained temporal-lobe symptomology relative to groups who did not report religious experiences and did not attend church regularly. In Study II subjects, regardless of church attendance, who reported religious experiences scored significantly higher on the temporal-lobe clusters. People who reported religious experiences were more likely to have kept a dairy and to enjoy poetry reading or writing. However, religious experiments and churchgoers did not score higher (in either experiment) on clusters that contained mundane psychological or proprioceptive statements, descriptions of odd sensations, or modified portions of the Lie scale from the MMPI.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6473043

Mystical experiences associated with seizures

Bruce Greysona, *, Donna K. Brosheka, , Lori L. Derra and Nathan B. Fountainb
a Department of Psychiatry & Neurobehavioral Sciences, University of Virginia School of Medicine, Charlottesville, VA, USA; b
Department of Neurology, University of Virginia School of Medicine,
Charlottesville, VA, USA

Alterations of consciousness are critical factors in the diagnosis of epilepsy and
seizure disorders. With this alteration in consciousness, some persons report unusual
experiences that have been thought to resemble spontaneous mystical experiences.
This study was designed to identify and characterize the mystical experiences
associated with seizure activity, through the use of a quantitative instrument with
well-documented reliability and validity for assessing the content and quality of
mystical states of consciousness. Ninety-eight patients with epilepsy completed a
modified version of the Mysticism Scale, of whom 86 had EEGs recorded. Fifty-five
per cent of the patients in this study recalled some subjective experience in association
with their seizures. However, none of the patients’ descriptions met the criteria for
mystical experience. Although some features of mystical experience were reported in
this study, particularly those suggestive of introvertive mysticism, they were not
associated with any particular lobe of the brain nor were they lateralized to either the
right or left side. Mysticism Scale scores were not significantly associated with
demographics, medical history including seizure risk factors and precipitants, or
seizure characteristics including localization and type of seizure.
Keywords: mystical experience; epilepsy; seizures; altered consciousness; ecstatic
seizures.

file:///C:/Users/Leonard/Downloads/mysticalexperience-RBB.pdf

I have read of similar research on the above basis.

Btw, where do you think your 'experiences' originated from?
You was chosen by God?
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Dontaskme wrote: Tue Aug 28, 2018 7:50 am
Lacewing wrote: Tue Aug 28, 2018 6:18 am
Dontaskme wrote: Mon Aug 27, 2018 12:45 pm I was born at the age of 4..meaning I became aware of myself existing.
I died at the aged of 23 ..meaning I had a full blown awakening
I didn't come into this world, I came out of what's always and already here always, not separate from that.
Ah, a favorite story? You don't typically admit to having such things.

Just curious, how do you come into and out of what's always and already here?
You don’t...only “thought” does apparently...mind then attaches to the thought...I is born...but it’s an illusion....no I has ever been born...there’s only this not knowing unborn presence ...one without a second.
Not knowing means no thing knows...no thing is thinking..
Just to add...you me we are source energy...fractualised into individual life experiences...as and through each avatar.
It’s not the avatar having the experince...it’s only ever source energy..from the perspective of the avatar.
We are all ONE
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Dontaskme wrote: Wed Aug 22, 2018 9:44 pm
Ramu wrote: Wed Aug 22, 2018 8:04 pm
But Veritas, Dontaskme isn't talking about religion. She's talking about non duality. A HUGE difference!!
Thanks...sweetheart 💋
DAM, isn't Ramu your sock puppet?
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Dontaskme wrote:
you me we are source energy ... fractualised into individual life experiences ... as and through each avatar
Its not the avatar having the experience ... its only ever source energy ... from the perspective of the avatar

We are all ONE
We are energy and we are individual and separate parts of the whole and everything is connected to everything else
I just do not think a single mind is experiencing what we experience because I do not think this mind actually exists

When we die we still have energy but not consciousness but reality carries on existing regardless
Reality itself cannot die because what is real has to exist but it is in a constant state of evolution
And part of this evolution involves the birth and death of every life form that there is including us
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Just take it as information if it is not applicable.
There is only information . . Of which the brain computer decodes into images.

What appears to be the material World is not actually real, all images are the effects of this artificial digital simulation matrix. It’s source energies dream world.

All your so called mental problems are the by product of wrong identity...they are not real....you are not your avatar...the avatar is your experience. You are source energy in which the experience is occurring.

The matrix is like a lucid dream of source energy.

All information is present always...and the thought mechanism is always of the past remembering what has already happened already existing here, appearing now. NOW is all there is.

You have always been present, you were there at the Big Bang and you will always be here, you are never not here.

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surreptitious57 wrote: Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:27 pm
Dontaskme wrote:
you me we are source energy ... fractualised into individual life experiences ... as and through each avatar
Its not the avatar having the experience ... its only ever source energy ... from the perspective of the avatar

We are all ONE
We are energy and we are individual and separate parts of the whole and everything is connected to everything else
I just do not think a single mind is experiencing what we experience because I do not think this mind actually exists

When we die we still have energy but not consciousness but reality carries on existing regardless
Reality itself cannot die because what is real has to exist but it is in a constant state of evolution
And part of this evolution involves the birth and death of every life form that there is including us
Okay, but remember this is only your particular thought structure, it’s your vibration. It’s your frequency.

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Dontaskme wrote:
NOW is all there is

You have always been present you were there at the Big Bang and you will always be here you are never not here
Now is indeed all there is and all there can ever be because the future has yet to exist while the past no longer exists
But even though everything can only exist in the now it will not exist in exactly the same form for all of its existence
Either the form dies or changes into another form as everything is in a constant state of motion and motion is change
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Dontaskme wrote:
surreptitious57 wrote:
Dontaskme wrote:
you me we are source energy ... fractualised into individual life experiences ... as and through each avatar
Its not the avatar having the experience ... its only ever source energy ... from the perspective of the avatar

We are all ONE
We are energy and we are individual and separate parts of the whole and everything is connected to everything else
I just do not think a single mind is experiencing what we experience because I do not think this mind actually exists

When we die we still have energy but not consciousness but reality carries on existing regardless
Reality itself cannot die because what is real has to exist but it is in a constant state of evolution
And part of this evolution involves the birth and death of every life form that there is including us
Okay but remember this is only your particular thought structure it is your vibration. It is your frequency
I can accept that thought is energy of a particular vibration or frequency but not that the physical is not real
That what my eyes see is not really there or what my mind perceives is simply imagination
I think my mind and my senses tell me that what is experienced is real and not imaginary

Free will allows different minds to create different models of reality which sometimes contradict each other
Even if this reality is not real it is easier to think of it as real because it is the only one that I actually know
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There is no life.
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Then the illusion of life is amazingly convincing if that is actually true
But because it is so convincing I think that it is real and not imaginary
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Btw, where do you think your 'experiences' originated from?
You was chosen by God?
There is only here divine source energy...you are that, and your experience is your avatar.
When all is source energy, choosing is choosing itself.

From source to source an endless spring.
There is nothing outside of source that is not source.

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surreptitious57 wrote: Tue Aug 28, 2018 6:12 pm
Dontaskme wrote:
surreptitious57 wrote:

We are energy and we are individual and separate parts of the whole and everything is connected to everything else
I just do not think a single mind is experiencing what we experience because I do not think this mind actually exists

When we die we still have energy but not consciousness but reality carries on existing regardless
Reality itself cannot die because what is real has to exist but it is in a constant state of evolution
And part of this evolution involves the birth and death of every life form that there is including us
Okay but remember this is only your particular thought structure it is your vibration. It is your frequency
I can accept that thought is energy of a particular vibration or frequency but not that the physical is not real
That what my eyes see is not really there or what my mind perceives is simply imagination
I think my mind and my senses tell me that what is experienced is real and not imaginary

Free will allows different minds to create different models of reality which sometimes contradict each other
Even if this reality is not real it is easier to think of it as real because it is the only one that I actually know
It’s the only reality you know yes.

It’s real insofar as knowledge informs...even though no one has seen the seer, no one has seen the knower, So the imagination is real in an illusory sense.

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Eodnhoj7 wrote: Tue Aug 28, 2018 11:34 pm There is no life.
This is knowledge known...which informs the illusory nature of life...insofar as it’s not knowing knowing...aka knowledge
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surreptitious57 wrote: Tue Aug 28, 2018 6:01 pm
Dontaskme wrote:
NOW is all there is

You have always been present you were there at the Big Bang and you will always be here you are never not here
Now is indeed all there is and all there can ever be because the future has yet to exist while the past no longer exists
But even though everything can only exist in the now it will not exist in exactly the same form for all of its existence
Either the form dies or changes into another form as everything is in a constant state of motion and motion is change
And that which appears to be forever changing...never changes.

That which appears to live..never lived.
That which appears to die ...never died.

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Dontaskme wrote: Wed Aug 29, 2018 9:00 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Tue Aug 28, 2018 11:34 pm There is no life.
This is knowledge known...which informs the illusory nature of life...insofar as it’s not knowing knowing...aka knowledge
But there also is no-nothing.....
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