God Is / Not An Impossibilty.

[Dontaskme]

Well, if souls are supposed to go through a passage/journey to become free, no doubt they will find a way. Is there any special rush? A deadline? A dead line??

After all, if we are all not actually selves as such but part of greater wholes, when saving myself while others are straggling doesn't mean anything, except someone else is doing the suffering.

Who cares whether the person at the leading edge is me (this part of the greater whole) or someone else (another part of the greater whole)? Someone has to be ahead of the pack and someone has to be a straggler, and whether it is me or someone else doesn't matter.

As regards any larger systems of which we are part, we are meat puppets pulled around by our pain and suffering as surely as a dog is pulled on a leash. Humanity is in its current situation because it never had any choice in the first place but to reach this situation - lead to this place by our pleasure and pain.

Do you know what suffering really means?

Do you want to know/learn what suffering really means?

You talk about suffering, but do you really know what it is ..do you really know who that ''WHO'' is that suffers?

Would you like to escape from suffering forever...or, are you okay that suffering is?

Do you know.. that what you are essentially..can endure all suffering and at the same time know that what you are essentially, never suffers?

Can you notice that despite all the suffering that comes with just being alive, that life still goes on undeterred uneffected regardless of it's circumstances, and that life is never once overwhelmed, engulfed or snuffed out by suffering. It endures everlastingly.


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Some questions for you to ponder, and if you desire the answers, they are already within you as your own knowledge.
But if you have forgotten what you already know I can reference you back to your own knowledge in the form of written text, as it is written, as it has been recorded. You can report back to yourself any time you need on demand if you find you have temporally forgotten the knowledge of yourself.

“So it shall be written, so it shall be done.”

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[Eodnhoj7]

God is both impossible (that which is limited) and possible (that which is without limit).

God as both impossible and possible is both beyond and prerequisite of the impossible and possible as the origin of both.

[Greta]

Well, if souls are supposed to go through a passage/journey to become free, no doubt they will find a way. Is there any special rush? A deadline? A dead line??

After all, if we are all not actually selves as such but part of greater wholes, when saving myself while others are straggling doesn't mean anything, except someone else is doing the suffering.

Who cares whether the person at the leading edge is me (this part of the greater whole) or someone else (another part of the greater whole)? Someone has to be ahead of the pack and someone has to be a straggler, and whether it is me or someone else doesn't matter.

As regards any larger systems of which we are part, we are meat puppets pulled around by our pain and suffering as surely as a dog is pulled on a leash. Humanity is in its current situation because it never had any choice in the first place but to reach this situation - lead to this place by our pleasure and pain.

Do you know what suffering really means?

Have you ever considered simply discussing things or even trying to learn from someone else rather than always telling them "how it is" from up on high?

[Dontaskme]

Have you ever considered simply discussing things or even trying to learn from someone else rather than always telling them "how it is" from up on high?

Knowledge has no copyright. That's the only knowledge I'm interested in. I have taught myself everything I know. No one can teach me what I already know. I can listen to knowledge from others, but will ultimately make up my own mind about, what is real or truth. Life is my only teacher. Only I know what's real and true, only I am inside of me, and that goes for every other person, only they know what's real and true for them. We can only experience our own realities. We are never drawing knowledge from an identified mind, as no one owns knowledge, all knowledge has it's source in not-knowing.

Copyrighted knowledge, is the misery self.

As for me, I prefer to learn ''how it is'' from up on high...my higher self, and not from my lower self, the world of copyright, the misery self.
Knowledge belongs to everyone and no one. Knowledge is everything and no thing.
No one owns knowledge. There is only knowledge. And all knowledge is sourced in not-knowing.

Knowledge informs illusory reality. Wisdom understands reality as illusory.

I also have a great respect for the illusion that is life living itself.And what you think about what I think about is quite frankly none of my business.

I am discussing things all the time here at this forum, but are you listening? ... or are you too busy always telling others "how it is" from where you are standing?
Quite frankly, I'm so over learning from the misery self, thank you very much.

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[Dontaskme]

God is both impossible (that which is limited) and possible (that which is without limit).

God as both impossible and possible is both beyond and prerequisite of the impossible and possible as the origin of both.

Well said.

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[Greta]

Have you ever considered simply discussing things or even trying to learn from someone else rather than always telling them "how it is" from up on high?

Knowledge has no copyright. That's the only knowledge I'm interested in. I have taught myself everything I know.

Takes all types ...

You actually did not teach yourself everything you knew. Your knowledge is an atom of a cell in a pimple on the bottom of overall human knowledge, and that atom was only made possible by the accumulated knowledge of your culture.

[Reflex]

Well, if souls are supposed to go through a passage/journey to become free, no doubt they will find a way. Is there any special rush? A deadline? A dead line??

After all, if we are all not actually selves as such but part of greater wholes, when saving myself while others are straggling doesn't mean anything, except someone else is doing the suffering.

Who cares whether the person at the leading edge is me (this part of the greater whole) or someone else (another part of the greater whole)? Someone has to be ahead of the pack and someone has to be a straggler, and whether it is me or someone else doesn't matter.

As regards any larger systems of which we are part, we are meat puppets pulled around by our pain and suffering as surely as a dog is pulled on a leash. Humanity is in its current situation because it never had any choice in the first place but to reach this situation - lead to this place by our pleasure and pain.

Do you know what suffering really means?

Have you ever considered simply discussing things or even trying to learn from someone else rather than always telling them "how it is" from up on high?

Have you?

[Greta]

Do you know what suffering really means?

Have you ever considered simply discussing things or even trying to learn from someone else rather than always telling them "how it is" from up on high?

Have you?

Every single day, emphatically yes. It's not my fault that you miss those many posts.

You have always had a tendency to miss the guts of whatever a person says and just follow inflammatory words. Then you reply with bitter and shallow Twitter-ish snipes.

[Dontaskme]

Have you ever considered simply discussing things or even trying to learn from someone else rather than always telling them "how it is" from up on high?

Knowledge has no copyright. That's the only knowledge I'm interested in. I have taught myself everything I know.

Takes all types ...

You actually did not teach yourself everything you knew. Your knowledge is an atom of a cell in a pimple on the bottom of overall human knowledge, and that atom was only made possible by the accumulated knowledge of your culture.

The I in this case is the ''known'' that cannot be known by another.

The real cannot be known, taught, practised, searched or experienced. Only the illusory can be known, taught, practised, searched and experienced. To understand that life, as the mind thinks it is, is illusory is non-duality or absolute understanding.

Knowledge informs the illusion of separation. Knowing is not known by a ''someone'' knowing. You are the knowing that cannot be known.

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[Dontaskme]

The real that exists in the world, including the world, is illusory because every atom of the real that exists is light. Therefore, the real that exists is an illusion of light and not an actuality. The sages have rightly proclaimed that life is a play of light and sound, without a real cause or effect, and that light, which has no real cause, reflects only illusory effects of reality.

The real remains the same without changing. But everything changes in life, so the real, which the mind thinks is real, is illusory.

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[Greta]

The real that exists in the world, including the world, is illusory because every atom of the real that exists is light. Therefore, the real that exists is an illusion of light and not an actuality. The sages have rightly proclaimed that life is a play of light and sound, without a real cause or effect, and that light, which has no real cause, reflects only illusory effects of reality.

The real remains the same without changing. But everything changes in life, so the real, which the mind thinks is real, is illusory.

Light is real, not an illusion. Further, everything is not light - it is energy, of which light is just one form.

Your post reminds me of people claiming that atoms are mostly empty space. No, that "empty" space is replete with strong nuclear forces exerted by the quarks in the nucleus that would tear you to shreds like the gravitational field around a neutron star if scaled up.

[Dontaskme]

The real that exists in the world, including the world, is illusory because every atom of the real that exists is light. Therefore, the real that exists is an illusion of light and not an actuality. The sages have rightly proclaimed that life is a play of light and sound, without a real cause or effect, and that light, which has no real cause, reflects only illusory effects of reality.

The real remains the same without changing. But everything changes in life, so the real, which the mind thinks is real, is illusory.

Light is real, not an illusion. Further, everything is not light - it is energy, of which light is just one form.

You are totally clueless, you did not read or listen to what you casually glossed over, the statement is saying what the mind thinks is real is illusory, not that the light is illusory. I've underlined and bolded the bit you failed to take in.


That which is always changing isn't real. The unchanging is the real... please, if your reading someone elses post and replying to it, at least pay attention to what's actually being said before typically reacting in the usual programmed fashion.

But yeah, lets get all sematic over our choice of word to describe the same thing.

Your post reminds me of people claiming that atoms are mostly empty space. No, that "empty" space is replete with strong nuclear forces exerted by the quarks in the nucleus that would tear you to shreds like the gravitational field around a neutron star if scaled up.

Oh really, I never knew that..thanks for the reminder. Did you look that up on google?

Yes, empty space is a pretty dynamic phenomena...Wow, so what?

Do you even know what is meant by ''emptiness'' in a metaphysical metaphorical sort of way?

Why are you here on my thread, I thought you said you prefer to talk about outside stuff? I thought this kind of stuff was boring.

Be careful you don't start tarring others with the same brush with your negative rants .. "I'm above it all" egotistical chest beating is very dull.

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[Dontaskme]

The real remains the same without changing.

What is the real that remains the same without changing?

Discuss...

[Greta]

The real that exists in the world, including the world, is illusory because every atom of the real that exists is light. Therefore, the real that exists is an illusion of light and not an actuality. The sages have rightly proclaimed that life is a play of light and sound, without a real cause or effect, and that light, which has no real cause, reflects only illusory effects of reality.

The real remains the same without changing. But everything changes in life, so the real, which the mind thinks is real, is illusory.

Light is real, not an illusion. Further, everything is not light - it is energy, of which light is just one form.

You are totally clueless, you did not read or listen to what you casually glossed over, the statement is saying what the mind thinks is real is illusory, not that the light is illusory. I've underlined and bolded the bit you failed to take in.

Your major profundity is the claim that the real remains the same without changing. Seemingly as opposed to the real that remains the same while change.

More time-wasting doublespeak.

What the mind thinks is real is evolved to be efficacious, not to be in touch with noumena. Old news.

[Dontaskme]

Your major profundity is the claim that the real remains the same without changing. Seemingly as opposed to the real that remains the same while change.

No, you are being clueless again, no problem if you can't see this, which you obviously can't else you wouldn't have said the real that remains the same while change...the difference is subtle, there is no opposition to the real, any opposition is unreal, it's a lie.

The real is never in opposition. Only the real can be real, ever unchanged.
Only the mind is at war with itself, it's the deluded self, a phantom appearance within the real.

There is no I who claims this.

The real remains the unchanging is not a claim, no one makes that claim, it's just experiencially known by natutally being. The real doesn't claim anything, it doesn't need to, it is everything.
Claiming is of the mind, a fantasy, temporal like a dream.

More time-wasting doublespeak.

Yes, it does appear that I am speaking to you and you are speaking to me, doesn't it. Time makes doublespeak possible...language is of time-space duality, the realm of the known. But the known is not the knower.

There is only the known, the dream of separation where there isn't any.

What the mind thinks is real is evolved to be efficacious, not to be in touch with noumena. Old news.

The mind is a tool used for human practical purposes, especially for the sake of communication via language, it's the dream of separation, an illsuory appearance within the real... not the real, there is subtle difference and to confuse the two is the problem that is all human suffering.

The mind cannot touch the noumena, the mind is a phenomenal appearance of the noumena. The two can never meet, for one doesn't exist.

News is always of the past, old.

Remembering who we are is the end of all suffering, anyone suffering is a dweller of the mind (cave mind) ...the deluded self.

If you think you've got an argument with a nondualist, then you are deluded to think so, the nondual mind takes no prisoners.



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