Exposing Liberal Hypocrisy and Conservative Close-Mindedness

[Walker]

“The stories you heard about the 12 Russians yesterday took place during the Obama Administration, not the Trump Administration. Why didn’t they do something about it, especially when it was reported that President Obama was informed by the FBI in September, before the Election?”
- POTUS Trump

Mr. President, you’re not the only free-thinker to think that. Some even wonder how the self-described communist Van Jones managed to get the ear of that president.

(Aint’ it something when it all converges to a point, in the end?)

This here clip keeps us rabble entertained.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsFR8DbSRQE

Maybe some other folks have some philosophy that relates to entertaining stories about their culture and government? All the better if it's unfolding in real time. Entertainment is fun, and fun is effective for learning, if that's your intent.

[Arising_uk]

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Mr. President, you’re not the only free-thinker to think that. Some even wonder how the self-described communist Van Jones managed to get the ear of that president.
...

Or that the current Prez is besty friends with a lieutenant colonel of the KGB?

[Walker]

It’s a downright shame that you don’t indulge in these videos, because you would appreciate the brevity of this Wisconsin country-boy Sensenbrenner, at least the breveity after he makes his necessary introduction.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhHkWlW99wk

[Lacewing]

It’s a downright shame that you don’t indulge in these videos,

It's no shame at all to not get swept up in the kind of noise that perpetuates the limited thinking that serves you for whatever reasons. If you were more balanced and honest with your assessments, that might be worth indulging in.

[Walker]

It’s a downright shame that you don’t indulge in these videos,

It's no shame at all to not get swept up in the kind of noise that perpetuates the limited thinking that serves you for whatever reasons. If you were more balanced and honest with your assessments, that might be worth indulging in.

Why else do you think we have been given these gifts, but to use them?



For my own reasons I'll take that as an honest assessment, and in return I offer the honest assessment that you are always so vague. You should give that some thought and not fire from the hip.

That means to carry the thought through time. As your mood changes and the "you" of first response changes, the assessment remains the same.

For full understanding make the assessment an arbitrary absolute without believing in it, and because you thus accept it completely for the arbitrary purposes of understanding, once that view allows understanding then you can accept or reject, and rationally explain why if in a 'splainin mood.

Simple, yes?

[Lacewing]

It's no shame at all to not get swept up in the kind of noise that perpetuates the limited thinking that serves you for whatever reasons. If you were more balanced and honest with your assessments, that might be worth indulging in.

For my own reasons I'll take that as an honest assessment, and in return I offer the honest assessment that you are always so vague.

Perhaps it appears that way to you because you think there are absolute single polarized answers for everything. I don't. I can often see truth and/or value on all sides. What I focus on is how people represent things. That tells me more than whatever story they are telling.

You should give that some thought and not fire from the hip.

You don't seem to recognize the depth and "time" (i.e. experience) involved in my responses. That's your short-coming, not mine. You WANT to see me as someone who shoots from the hip, and isn't as thorough and solid as you. Your own limitations and investments prevent you from understanding beyond that.

[Greta]

"If Clinton tried on what Trump had done of course I would have been just as offput. " This is precisely where my opinion is elevated from "belief" to "truth". if you base your principles on specific issues, and you think conflict of interest is tied to a behaviour but not to a position, then you just proved how hypocritical you are.

Your demands ought to be universal, and you ought to apply to all, not at all only to selected ones, who YOU think ought to be applied to.

Yet you clearly indicated that your demands be applied based on behaviour.

This makes my opinion that you are hypocritical, into a fact.

No, it is not hypocritical by wanting at least some some semblance or pretence of probity in governance.

There is no need for you to incoherently babble against me in what looks like a desperate attempt to justify the idiotic comments you made earlier. Why not just admit that you stuffed up before and move on?

[-1-]

No, it is not hypocritical by wanting at least some some semblance or pretence of probity in governance.

There is no need for you to incoherently babble against me in what looks like a desperate attempt to justify the idiotic comments you made earlier. Why not just admit that you stuffed up before and move on?

Greta, you are simply insulting me over and over and over, and demand without presenting reasonable arguments that I capitulate to your arguments.

I expected more of a site moderator. Much more.

For my exit statement from this thread: I won't take the blame for your not seeing reason in my posts.

[Walker]

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Mr. President, you’re not the only free-thinker to think that. Some even wonder how the self-described communist Van Jones managed to get the ear of that president.
...

Or that the current Prez is besty friends with a lieutenant colonel of the KGB?

I read that the indictments of the Russians state no evidence, only unsupported conclusions.

Sounds familiar.

Rationally:

It's political theater that the Left hopes will stick with repetition.

That, and timing the release with Trump’s Russian visit, sounds like more resistance from beauracratic fiefdoms to destabilize the constitutionally-elected executive branch.

[gaffo]

In the first ten minutes, Jones he says that Fox News is more right, than CNN is left.

he is correct. CNN is moderate.

I’ve watched CNN.
They’re insane.

why? their journalism is shit - i.e. poor.

BTW MSNBC is the proper comparison to Faux news for the left equivalent.

-both provda crap, not worth my time to view.

as for CNN - they were AOL for fk sake! - after Turner tossed them - why view them? they are middle-moderate, but crap quality journalism.

[gaffo]

You're full of theories.
Use your own source.
Your own link.
Obtuseness has blinded you.

Walker, can you give me one concrete example of communism, using your own words?

How about if you define it, any way you like including examples, then tell me why would a Leftist communist want to help conservatives with advice?

That's what is supposedly going on in the OP.

jesus was an esseme communist BTW.

off topic of course.

[gaffo]

The scary thing is conservatives used to hide their crazy. I used to think they were hypocrites because they seemed to act like holier than thou bible thumpers but their dark ugly side would come out once in awhile.

Now, that Trump has made it trendy, they can show their ugly side all the time. There is no good side left.

Gone is the day when they at least tried to follow the bibles verses. That's gone....terrifying if you ask me. People who have no moral compass and no bible to tell them right from wrong...there is no going back from here...and i am sure even Walker has no idea what can come of this pandoras box. I doubt very seriously he's going to like where the MAGA trend is going.

indeed - 1933 germany, that where is going.

;-(.

[gaffo]

Well, if a conservative commentator, cited by a blog owned by the Tampa Bay Times says so, I have no reason to doubt it.

What evidence do you have that reason is involved?
Well, Wanker is clearly a f****** idiot, but I don't know that he's a racist. Whaddya say, Wanker?

The scary thing is conservatives used to hide their crazy. I used to think they were hypocrites because they seemed to act like holier than thou bible thumpers but their dark ugly side would come out once in awhile.

Now, that Trump has made it trendy, they can show their ugly side all the time. There is no good side left.

Gone is the day when they at least tried to follow the bibles verses. That's gone....terrifying if you ask me. People who have no moral compass and no bible to tell them right from wrong...there is no going back from here...and i am sure even Walker has no idea what can come of this pandoras box. I doubt very seriously he's going to like where the MAGA trend is going.

Doin what you do best.

which is speaking truth to power?

agreed.

[gaffo]

I know that although Walker and I don't exactly see eye to eye much of the time, I've never seen him write anything remotely racist or redneck.

thats good to know.

nothing wrong with being a redneck.

He likes Trump. Is that a crime?

IMO, yes it is. as it was for anyone that supported Hitler/Hito/Mussalini/Putin/Eidowan/Assad/etc...............insert any of the hundreds of tin-star thugs of history here.

[gaffo]

Liking Trump is no crime.

dissagree - a crime against humanity it is. by ignorance or willingly - its still a crime.