AJ Ayer's Near Death Experience.

[uwot]

Have I committed a faux pas here? I am autistic, as I think I've mentioned a few times, and have always annoyed people for reasons I never find out about. Feedback would be useful.

Well, I can't really speak for anyone you may have annoyed, but I can imagine that some people might not take kindly to being put on the spot when they don't respond in the way you expect.

My understanding of the situation is that you raised the subject of NDEs for those who might be interested.

NDEs were coming up in a couple of other threads, with the interpretations going along fairly predictable lines. Rather than splash the same reference across the forum, I thought it would be tidier to just do it the once; that perhaps was a mistake, rather than anything you have written.

[commonsense]

For decades band leaders have trusted me to play whatever I thought sounded right

Brava!

Have I committed a faux pas here?

No.

I am autistic, as I think I've mentioned a few times, and have always annoyed people for reasons I never find out about.

Never would have guessed.
BTW, according to 23 & me, I have a greater than normal likelihood of having Tourette’s. Fuck that!

Feedback would be useful.

I just assume that others are focused on the thread at hand, and that they resort to ad hom’s when they no longer have a legitimate argument to put forth. Sometimes I am wrong about the former and they are actually focused on me personally. Fuck that!

Now, it seems that my contributions were seemingly taken as, not a contribution, but akin to a trumpet interjection in Brahms Lullaby?

I played violin until a hand tremor left me with only a tremolo bowing, but I always fostered an admiration for the brasses.

As I say, I'm not seeing the faux pas here.

You seem too astute to be missing anything. If you don’t see it, it’s just not there.

Are the replies too long?

No.

Should I be working towards a more modern, Twitterised mode of communication?

Heavens, no!

[Greta]

Have I committed a faux pas here? I am autistic, as I think I've mentioned a few times, and have always annoyed people for reasons I never find out about. Feedback would be useful.

Well, I can't really speak for anyone you may have annoyed, but I can imagine that some people might not take kindly to being put on the spot when they don't respond in the way you expect.

Who is at their best after putting thought into a post and being being brushed off? I guess I'm not one to go quietly - probably should, though.

My understanding of the situation is that you raised the subject of NDEs for those who might be interested.

NDEs were coming up in a couple of other threads, with the interpretations going along fairly predictable lines. Rather than splash the same reference across the forum, I thought it would be tidier to just do it the once; that perhaps was a mistake, rather than anything you have written.

If you are starting a thread, people will assume that is because you are interested in it yourself rather than effectively acting as a conduit after finding something that you figured would interest others.

Starting the thread was a considerate idea and the article was a good one IMO. With the benefit of hindsight, it would have helped to make make clear that the subject was not of much interest to you personally.

[Greta]

I guess disinterest stems from the idea that NDEs are only circumstantial evidence for life after death. I would say its role as possible "evidence" is not the issue, rather the experience in itself, even if it only lasts for only a few minutes before brain death.

Some may figure that those minutes matter no more than any other few-minute portion of your conscious existence. However, what if there are strong subjective time dilation effects? After all, once your heart has stopped, what happens "out there" is of no consequence. Once there is nothing to lose, the objective loses all meaning - there is only subjective reality.

[commonsense]

Hi CS - thanks for the reassurances. Much appreciated. In real life it's obviously much harder to be frank about asking for feedback so one finds oneself unsure what the heck is going on at times. Human social complexity ... I never got the hang of it

Now, it seems that my contributions were seemingly taken as, not a contribution, but akin to a trumpet interjection in Brahms Lullaby?

I played violin until a hand tremor left me with only a tremolo bowing, but I always fostered an admiration for the brasses.

I was contemplating taking up violin about a decade ago but I didn't think my neck would thank me - love the instrument. Commiserations about the tremors. I've had that only sporadically and it's incredibly frustrating.

Should I be working towards a more modern, Twitterised mode of communication?

Heavens, no!

Heh, philosophy forums may end up being the last bastions of florid soliloquies.

I guess disinterest stems from the idea that NDEs are only circumstantial evidence for life after death. I would say its role as possible "evidence" is not the issue, rather the experience in itself, even if it only lasts for only a few minutes before brain death.

Some may figure that those minutes matter no more than any other few-minute portion of your conscious existence. However, what if there are strong subjective time dilation effects? After all, once your heart has stopped, what happens "out there" is of no consequence. Once there is nothing to lose, the objective loses all meaning - there is only subjective reality.
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I'll take everything back if you mis-identify my words as yours or vv again.

[Greta]

I have edited out the incorrect attributions. Sorry about the mistake.

You might as well take back all you said, though, because I think I have had enough. I cannot take the discord of forums any more. It's just horrible. I need to find a more civilised place to be.

[Eodnhoj7]

I have edited out the incorrect attributions. Sorry about the mistake.

You might as well take back all you said, though, because I think I have had enough. I cannot take the discord of forums any more. It's just horrible. I need to find a more civilised place to be.

I will advise Scott that I am resigning as Admin, mod and forum member.

Goodbye all. Try not be to be understanding and pleasant to each other if you can.

Thanks to any mods who have provided help. That was much appreciated. Also thanks to those who provided gentle, civilised conversation.

You were an admin and mod the whole time?

[commonsense]

I have edited out the incorrect attributions. Sorry about the mistake.

You might as well take back all you said, though, because I think I have had enough. I cannot take the discord of forums any more. It's just horrible. I need to find a more civilised place to be.

I'll miss you

[Greta]

You were an admin and mod the whole time?

No, on another forum.

I'm just over forums in general and mixed them up in my rush to disengage.

[Eodnhoj7]

You were an admin and mod the whole time?

No, on another forum.

I'm just over forums in general and mixed them up in my rush to disengage.

Well, you are/were one of the few real philosophers here. With that being said I cannot really blame you...most people on these forums are savage idiots with a cowardly streak. Most conversation end up in ad-hominums by page 2...which I can deal with but when no argument is presented...really? I am looking at taking some breaks from the forums I am on, but not now. I came for feedback on ideas and to improve my writing/communication skills, once that goal is met I will take my leave also. It is a way cheaper method than shelling out 100k for a degree...lol.

[commonsense]

Well, you are/were one of the few real philosopher's here. With that being said I cannot really blame you...most people on these forums are savage idiots with a cowardly streak. Most conversation end up in ad-hominums by page 2...which I can deal with but when no argument is presented...really

Well said. My sentiments exactly.