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Re: What is philosophy?

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Eodnhoj7 wrote: Tue May 22, 2018 12:48 amThe root of science is the application of measurements as a form of definition...philosophy is definition.
Is it possible that you could go do something else? You are completely unsuited for philosophy, even basic philosophy.
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commonsense wrote: Sat May 19, 2018 9:47 pm Philosophy is inquiry. It attempts to get at the truth of something.

A haphazard search for truth produces haphazard results. Questions omitted by a less than rigorous approach may alter what is accepted as truth.

To avoid arriving at random conclusions, there needs to be rules in place--rules about what questions to ask, what methods to use in the asking and the answering, what answers to accept as relevant evidence and how to organize the answers in standardized fashion. Hence, science.

Philosophy is inquiry. It depends on evidence, not opinion.
This is grabbed out of thin air.

Inquirely alone won't do much, on various forums blind will lead blind, they refuse to read up on basic science, they lack basic knowledge thus they lack cognitive abilities to ask the right questions and comprehend the answer when it's given. I've posted many scientific articles to silly questions which has ALWAYS been ignore because it's a dull answer.
Answers to silly cozy chatters who call themselves philosophers must be exciting and poetic, else it isn't "truth" which is moronic!

Philosophy isn't alone inquiry, since answers can be falsified, by lies, misunderstandings, corruption etc etc.

My kind of philosophy are based on conjunction of principles, which enables me to do basic lawsuits which none of my high IQ 135++ buddies can't, even with out any education!! Also made me successful at my job in Administration and Quality Department where I told senior staff what to do and how to do their job.

Though I'm harsh on you and disagree with everything you say, I must admit that you are an "uncut diamond" you have the full potential to be a good philosopher if you learn the right kind of principles to guide your thoughts.
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Re: What is philosophy?

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HexHammer wrote: Wed May 23, 2018 10:25 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Sat May 19, 2018 5:19 pm Philosophy is the application of boundaries through the practice of reason as an observation of structure and relations. Science is limited in its abilities to define phenomenon because the methodology cannot maintain itself under its own scrutiny. "Being que Being" maintains a dual circular and linear progress that maintains and advances knowledge.
Do you have a name for that fairytale world which you reside in?
The scientists are the one's pushing the holographic universe theory and time as illusion...this has been said in various forms for centuries stemming from the Platonist's etc.

So much for a response, once one has moved to ad-hominums as the only recourse they prove their own intelligence...why should I take you seriously at this point? Did I reach the limits of your understanding? Because if so tell me so I don't waste my time.
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HexHammer wrote: Wed May 23, 2018 10:31 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Tue May 22, 2018 12:48 amThe root of science is the application of measurements as a form of definition...philosophy is definition.
Is it possible that you could go do something else? You are completely unsuited for philosophy, even basic philosophy.
Did I strike a nerve? Second ad-hominum in a row...you are so smart and clever with your responses (insert :) cookie and pat on the head with an "atta boy").

Philosophy at its root is a process of definition with this process extending into the scientific method under the mode of empiricism. The school of empiricism faces problems of not just interpretation but contradiction itself when left on its own terms as it ignores the abstract nature of metaphysics which give premise to its form and function. The scientific method is literally a rotation of concepts which give form and meaning to certain actions of aquiring knowledge, it is an abstraction and any empirical methodology alone inevitably leads to contradiction as materialism is self-annihilating.
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HexHammer wrote: Wed May 23, 2018 10:29 pm
QuantumT wrote: Sat May 19, 2018 7:03 pm My intention with this thread, was to reclaim the scientific roots of philosophy, and disqualify the modern day approach, that philosophy can be any idea presented by any moron.

If philosophy is to be taken serious in the future, we all must defend that! If we don't, philosophy is dying.
Philosophy has been dead for centuries, replaced by science.

Philosophy are only good for "softer value" that you can't measure, like love, human care, ethics etc, but such things are not really taught in school and needs to be brought up on national and international lvls, where leaders can have it brought to attention.

I do agree with you here!
Is that so? Ph.D means Doctor of Philosophy.
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HexHammer wrote: Wed May 23, 2018 10:46 pm
commonsense wrote: Sat May 19, 2018 9:47 pm Philosophy is inquiry. It attempts to get at the truth of something.

A haphazard search for truth produces haphazard results. Questions omitted by a less than rigorous approach may alter what is accepted as truth.

To avoid arriving at random conclusions, there needs to be rules in place--rules about what questions to ask, what methods to use in the asking and the answering, what answers to accept as relevant evidence and how to organize the answers in standardized fashion. Hence, science.

Philosophy is inquiry. It depends on evidence, not opinion.
This is grabbed out of thin air.

Inquirely alone won't do much, on various forums blind will lead blind, they refuse to read up on basic science, they lack basic knowledge thus they lack cognitive abilities to ask the right questions and comprehend the answer when it's given. I've posted many scientific articles to silly questions which has ALWAYS been ignore because it's a dull answer.
Answers to silly cozy chatters who call themselves philosophers must be exciting and poetic, else it isn't "truth" which is moronic!


Philosophy isn't alone inquiry, since answers can be falsified, by lies, misunderstandings, corruption etc etc.

My kind of philosophy are based on conjunction of principles, which enables me to do basic lawsuits which none of my high IQ 135++ buddies can't, even with out any education!! Also made me successful at my job in Administration and Quality Department where I told senior staff what to do and how to do their job.

Paper pusher...no wonder you envy anyone who comes up with an original argument...stuck organizing the work of others.

Considering you are referencing the IQ of your friends, it appears you may have some envy towards them and have a "need" to prove yourself...hence the hostility with any argument that counters your own. Add the fact you do "basic lawsuits" and not anything more advanced...I am detecting self-loathing here...possible midlife crisis? That sounds exciting...for you and all your anger that is...

But ad-hominums aside and back to the argument:

You cannot say "my kind of philosophy" without saying truth becomes inherently subjective and de-objectify the nature of science as a means to truth.


Though I'm harsh on you and disagree with everything you say, I must admit that you are an "uncut diamond" you have the full potential to be a good philosopher if you learn the right kind of principles to guide your thoughts.

Don't tell your self you are even harsh...you are not. I think you confuse harshness with being frustrated by different opinions.
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Re: What is philosophy?

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HexHammer wrote: Wed May 23, 2018 10:29 pm
QuantumT wrote: Sat May 19, 2018 7:03 pm My intention with this thread, was to reclaim the scientific roots of philosophy, and disqualify the modern day approach, that philosophy can be any idea presented by any moron.

If philosophy is to be taken serious in the future, we all must defend that! If we don't, philosophy is dying.
Philosophy has been dead for centuries, replaced by science.

Philosophy are only good for "softer value" that you can't measure, like love, human care, ethics etc, but such things are not really taught in school and needs to be brought up on national and international lvls, where leaders can have it brought to attention.

I do agree with you here!
If you cannot define the value of measurement through its own terms, scientifically, it becomes a soft value and you contradict yourself.
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Eodnhoj7 wrote: Thu May 24, 2018 12:23 amThe scientists are the one's pushing the holographic universe theory and time as illusion...this has been said in various forms for centuries stemming from the Platonist's etc.
Just because science is wrong at times, doesn't mean science is wrong all the time, and it's only at certain areas which they often fails, besides you should understand the concept of THEORIES which is not stated as fact. Big difference, everything you say is stated as facts, not theory.
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Eodnhoj7 wrote: Thu May 24, 2018 12:28 amDid I strike a nerve? Second ad-hominum in a row...you are so smart and clever with your responses (insert :) cookie and pat on the head with an "atta boy").

Philosophy at its root is a process of definition with this process extending into the scientific method under the mode of empiricism. The school of empiricism faces problems of not just interpretation but contradiction itself when left on its own terms as it ignores the abstract nature of metaphysics which give premise to its form and function. The scientific method is literally a rotation of concepts which give form and meaning to certain actions of aquiring knowledge, it is an abstraction and any empirical methodology alone inevitably leads to contradiction as materialism is self-annihilating.
I just know that people who dwell in fairytale worlds cost big companies millions, sometimes companies has to close down because reality hit them too hard.

Now that you have such sublime understanding of philosophy, then why are you not a millionaire? ......because you understand nothing!!!! Because you are delusional!!!!
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HexHammer wrote: Thu May 24, 2018 1:19 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Thu May 24, 2018 12:23 amThe scientists are the one's pushing the holographic universe theory and time as illusion...this has been said in various forms for centuries stemming from the Platonist's etc.
Just because science is wrong at times, doesn't mean science is wrong all the time,
So probabilities are a constant?

and it's only at certain areas which they often fails, besides you should understand the concept of THEORIES which is not stated as fact. Big difference, everything you say is stated as facts, not theory.

The history in regards to Plato specifically? Or the argument when things inevitably alternate and cycle through eachother? Either way these observation hold their basis in reality.
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Re: What is philosophy?

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HexHammer wrote: Thu May 24, 2018 1:22 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Thu May 24, 2018 12:28 amDid I strike a nerve? Second ad-hominum in a row...you are so smart and clever with your responses (insert :) cookie and pat on the head with an "atta boy").

Philosophy at its root is a process of definition with this process extending into the scientific method under the mode of empiricism. The school of empiricism faces problems of not just interpretation but contradiction itself when left on its own terms as it ignores the abstract nature of metaphysics which give premise to its form and function. The scientific method is literally a rotation of concepts which give form and meaning to certain actions of aquiring knowledge, it is an abstraction and any empirical methodology alone inevitably leads to contradiction as materialism is self-annihilating.
I just know that people who dwell in fairytale worlds cost big companies millions, sometimes companies has to close down because reality hit them too hard.

Big companies are built on fairytales: The entertainment industry, advertising, etc.

The world existed prior to industry and will exist long after. Many of the products that we "need" are merely manipulation of the weaker elements of the human psyche. Why? To quote a movie, "fight club", which will word it better than I can:

"We're consumers. We are by-products of a lifestyle obsession. Murder, crime, poverty, these things don't concern me. What concerns me are celebrity magazines, television with 500 channels, some guy's name on my underwear. Rogaine, Viagra, Olestra.


“You have a class of young men and women, and they want to give their lives to something. Advertising has these people chasing cars and clothes they don't need. Generations have been working in jobs they hate, just so they can buy what they don't really need.”


Now that you have such sublime understanding of philosophy, then why are you not a millionaire? ......because you understand nothing!!!! Because you are delusional!!!!


If that is what you believe:
“Then you're trapped on your lovely nest, and the things you used to own, now they own you.”

“Deliver me from Swedish furniture.
Deliver me from clever art.
And the phone rang and Tyler answered.
"If you don't know what you want," the doorman said, "you end up with a lot you don't."
May I never be complete.
May I never be content.
May I never be perfect.
Deliver me...from being perfect and complete.”

Don't you love movies? It does save the time and effort of original thought "you special little snowflake you".... I don't know if I should throw more ad-hominums or scratch your tummy and pat you on the head and throw a rolled up w-2 for you to play fetch with....
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