Muslims/Mexicans Are Taking Over

[GreatandWiseTrixie]

So you're saying having morals and ethics, is religious

Nope... I said "You're working with a certain set of potentials, and anything beyond that is evil." So, in other words, if you don't see it or understand it, it's somehow evil. THAT is a religious way of thinking, don't you think?

There isn't a noble bone in your body. To you, evil doesn't exist. To you, a world ran by liars and brutal Muslims is every bit as good as a world ran by good-hearted, honest people. You wouldn't lift a finger to stop tyranny. There isn't a noble bone in your body.

For someone who rants about the limits of society and other people, you surely possess a surprisingly narrow/limited mindset yourself. It appears to make sense to you to turn everything into the flatness of a cartoon. You don't want people judging you and telling you who/what you are, and yet you're doing it to other people all the time. Entire groups of people -- you paint with broad strokes of hate and contempt -- judging and condemning everything as if it is flat and small. But that's just a reflection of your own mind: flat and small.

Small compared to the universe, large compared to you.

You confirm my theory that everyone on the internet is a total a-hole.

I CAN PAINT ENTIRE GROUPS OF PEOPLE A WAY BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL OBEDIENT SLAVES TO A BOOK. THEY PAINT THEMSELVES THIS WAY BY LABELLING THEMSELVES MUSLIMS. THAT IS HOW THEY IDENTIFY. UNDERSTAND???

You already exposed you are a nihilist, who thinks that everything is equal, and doesn't care about your fate, if this was a movie I wouldn't even be talking to you, I'd already be sailing on the Viking ship of freedom because you wouldn't even be a major character in the movie, you would have already been betrayed and eliminated from the script by the alien-overlords you worship like that guy in Simpsons.

Like Im wasting my time talking to a madwoman, who, and I quote, says she loves all of the horrors and beauties of the world because they are all equal. Is this the type of woman you want to run your country? To lead your philosophy?

THAT'S why it feels to me that it's possible to have LOVE FOR ALL OF IT!! Just as it is. The beauty, the horrors... ALL OF IT. I'm not talking about love that is based on conditions. I'm talking about love that is based on acceptance and appreciation for the vast potential of creation.

Are you f-king serious mate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZbP3MR3T00

[Lacewing]

THAT'S why it feels to me that it's possible to have LOVE FOR ALL OF IT!! Just as it is. The beauty, the horrors... ALL OF IT. I'm not talking about love that is based on conditions. I'm talking about love that is based on acceptance and appreciation for the vast potential of creation.

Are you f-king serious mate.

I'm being honest with you. You're the one who is ridiculously "serious" with a small-minded concept of love.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

I'm not a racist ...

...thus I have no problem with Arabs.

What I have a problem with is Islam.

Atheist arabs should be allowed in, but no muslims.

Now the problem with Mexicans is that they work for low wages, overall messing up the economy because they don't have enough self-esteem.

God ... does anyone feel the need to explain to this troll exactly how stupid this is?

Stop and think about how stupid a world ran by Muslims will be, then get back to me on that.

Reporting for 'Islamophobia'

[Sir-Sister-of-Suck]

All you did there was use more words

"Racists talk about arabic people and muslims as though they're the same thing? That's racist!" *Proceeds to talk about arabic people and muslims as though they're the same thing.

By proxy, you give justification for the racists to do the same thing. You use the principle, and so they get to use the principle. Not sure how many more ways I can phrase this. I mean, if you don't actually think a mass racial stereotyping of someone based on their race is a bad thing, I guess you're free to use the line of reasoning. It just makes me wonder why you have a problem when someone like trixie does this.

What are you accusing me of? I can't make sense of your waffle?

I'm accusing you of using a prominent principle of racist people like Hitler. I guess that isn't blunt enough?

But if you want to hate a bunch of people for stuff that isn't true, then there starts to be a problem.

That's not what you've been stating as the criteria, but the problem with that, is that a mentality like trixie's becomes "bigoted" by ignorance, and not bigoted by its incentive, because you're suggesting that if the stuff were true, than that person is justified in their hatred. 'Bigotry' being in quotation marks, because this is all to say that this isn't 'bigotry' at all, but simply being wrong in an assessment.

Did I write "tenets of islam"? No, I wrote about the common attributes of the people of that religion.

You don't think following the tenets of Islam is a common attribute for Islamists?

Yeah, look, you have never tracked across the country picking fruit at a series of farms for months on end I assume (I know I wouldn't do it)

That's a pretty immaterial anecdote. I'm not talking about what would change my or your willingness to work an agricultural job, I'm talking about what would change the collective will of other americans.

Another is to give up on this year's crop, tear it out and plant something that can be picked by machine next season.

The funny thing about that, is that even replacing our immigrant workers with automation would effectively put more well-paying jobs in the hands of american workers. But I honestly don't believe it would play out like that for the majority of farms

These are the outcomes that do happen in that situation. Rising wages for Americans, when the wage level required to entice them matches those of oil rigs, isn't going to happen.

Yeah, I never said it would entice enough americans to replace the jobs relative to the exact rate of illegal immigrants currently working them. But if the competitive wage rose, it would certainly encourage more americans to take these jobs instead.

Whatever, fine, you are dropping the thing about immigration law and I don't have to point out that I was referring to legal immigrants who get pushed to the margins of the workforce.

...Well, usually when someone says 'illegal immigrants', and keeps mentioning how they are 'illegal' every single time they're brought up, chances are - he's not talking about the legal immigrants specifically, and only. So I don't know how your train of thought got so far away from what I was obviously talking about, but it probably would have been easier to point out that you were talking about legal ones from the get-go, you know, if you really were.

Mate, you wrote "doing racism a serious disservice of how bad it actually is", and "doing a major disservice to actual racism". Don't be a wanker.Mate, you wrote "doing racism a serious disservice of how bad it actually is", and "doing a major disservice to actual racism". Don't be a wanker.

Is this suppose to make me regret what I said? Because I stand by it. I wouldn't put racism on the same shelf as a hatred based on someones religion, anymore than I would fault someone for hating someones ideology.

Measurable impacts are subject to that sort of analysis. If you want to start measuring the impact of children on an economy you will need to wait a few decades and measure something a long way beyond wage effects.

Do you think the children of these illegals help to drive wages up? Do you think they create jobs at the rate they take them? Do you think low-education people having kids at a higher rate than the average person is generally a good thing? Do you think they help increase welfare dependency?

All these questions aren't meant to find fault in the children, because of course it's not they're fault for being born, and as I already said I'm generally fine with the existing laws around second-generation immigrants. The point is looking at the full picture of certain problems, and seeing if there's a solution that can be implemented to prevent these things from ever being a problem. It is not to find them as an agency to blame, as seems to be your hesitant impression of why I'm asking all this, because I can sense that you actually have a more concrete opinion about their economic impact.

[Sir-Sister-of-Suck]

Stop and think about how stupid a world ran by Muslims will be, then get back to me on that.

Reporting for 'Islamophobia'

I literally just added the person to my block list, but I do have to say that's pretty low from someone who's constantly going on about the toxic nature of PC culture. I mean, I recall a few times where you've said something very similar about christians running america, well, and about americans in general. I always take an issue with it, but never once have I thought of trying to censor you for your opinion. Report her for the pedophile shit if anything, not for this.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Stop and think about how stupid a world ran by Muslims will be, then get back to me on that.

Reporting for 'Islamophobia'

I literally just added the person to my block list, but I do have to say that's pretty low from someone who's constantly going on about the toxic nature of PC culture. I mean, I recall a few times where you've said something very similar about christians running america, well, and about americans in general. I always take an issue with it, but never once have I thought of trying to censor you for your opinion. Report her for the pedophile shit if anything, not for this.

Aaagh! Americans are so LITERAL! If you had been reading our comments you would have seen him telling me he was reporting me for 'transphobia'! Please let me know if this still doesn't make any sense to you and I will try to explain it down to the tiniest detail. It's called a joke (a bit lame but I would have thought obvious).
Could you tell me which post refers to paedophilia? I can't be bothered wading through all the rubbish.

[Sir-Sister-of-Suck]

Well, it doesn't seem to have been in this thread and she's on my block list, so forgive me for not wading through all the 'rubbish' myself. I am sorry.

Just click on the sub-forum homepage, it's her thread about micheal jackson just under this one in 'applied ethics'.

[Seleucus]

The funniest part is that for all your love, Muslims hate modernist leftists like you. Who are you actually standing up for and protecting in your white knight rescuer routine? People who despise you? What you're up to is putting on a big show of your moral superiority and trying to insult others for not being the pillars of righteousness you are. You'rea narcissist putting others down because of your inferiority complex and trying to hide it in a show of virtuousness. This game is well understood and only the most gullible are still fooled by it.

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Your vain histrionic self-centeredness is putting people's lives and a whole civilization in danger. How many more little girls at concerts need to be blown up and kids run over in truck attacks so you can act out your immature rebellion. Importing millions of hostile aliens into our society is a very reckless and bad idea. Grow up.

[Lacewing]

Your vain histrionic self-centeredness is putting people's lives and a whole civilization in danger. How many more little girls at concerts need to be blown up and kids run over in truck attacks so you can act out your immature rebellion. Importing millions of hostile aliens into our society is a very reckless and bad idea. Grow up.

Oh my, aren't you the righteous one?!!!

[Seleucus]

Your vain histrionic self-centeredness is putting people's lives and a whole civilization in danger. How many more little girls at concerts need to be blown up and kids run over in truck attacks so you can act out your immature rebellion. Importing millions of hostile aliens into our society is a very reckless and bad idea. Grow up.

Oh my, aren't you the righteous one?!!!

Your fraudulent drama game is up. Tell me what you've ever contributed in your life to Muslims? Pro bono legal work? Donated funds to a Quranic institute? Medical work in Yemen? Volunteering to teach Libyan children? Adopted a Syrian orphan? Zero obviously -- just a big vain show of ego.

[Lacewing]

Your fraudulent drama game is up. Tell me what you've ever contributed in your life to Muslims? Pro bono legal work? Donated funds to a Quranic institute? Medical work in Yemen? Volunteering to teach Libyan children? Adopted a Syrian orphan? Zero obviously -- just a big vain show of ego.

What are you talking about? You seem to be on some blind vengeance trip of spewing accusations at someone you don't even know. Nothing you have said has anything to do with me. So, I honestly don't know what your problem is.

What have I specifically said that has led you to project your own twisted ideas onto me? Please repeat the exact words that you found so offensive. Not your wacked out interpretation of what you imagine I said... but what I actually said. Can you do that?

[Seleucus]

Your fraudulent drama game is up. Tell me what you've ever contributed in your life to Muslims? Pro bono legal work? Donated funds to a Quranic institute? Medical work in Yemen? Volunteering to teach Libyan children? Adopted a Syrian orphan? Zero obviously -- just a big vain show of ego.

What are you talking about? You seem to be on some blind vengeance trip of spewing accusations at someone you don't even know. Nothing you have said has anything to do with me. So, I honestly don't know what your problem is.

What have I specifically said that has led you to project your own twisted ideas onto me? Please repeat the exact words that you found so offensive. Not your wacked out interpretation of what you imagine I said... but what I actually said. Can you do that?

So as expected you've never lifted a finger to do a single tangible thing for Muslim people. It's all just talk. Multiculturalism is just your histrionic ego game. Wow, you're so virtuous.

[Seleucus]

my block list

Oh, another leftist with Ostrich Syndrome,

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[Lacewing]

What have I specifically said that has led you to project your own twisted ideas onto me? Please repeat the exact words that you found so offensive. Not your wacked out interpretation of what you imagine I said... but what I actually said. Can you do that?

So as expected you've never lifted a finger to do a single tangible thing for Muslim people. It's all just talk. Multiculturalism is just your histrionic ego game. Wow, you're so virtuous.

What do I need to do for them? I simply said I feel love for all. Don't you? Doesn't God, according to Christians? What is your problem? You have not told me (as I've requested) what I've said that you found so offensive -- you just want to keep attacking, like a hateful, mindless asshole. If you can't provide reasoning (other than your own projections and delusions) for the things you say, then nothing you say is honorable or valuable.

[Sir-Sister-of-Suck]

my block list

Oh, another leftist with Ostrich Syndrome

What the hell are you talking about? I'm literally in an argument with someone in this thread about immigration, because I'm apparently not left enough.

If you think I added her to my block list because I was offended by what she said about muslims or immigrants - things I actually defended her on, and was a catalyst to the said discussion I'm in right now - you're mistaken. It wasn't really to censor her opinions, but more so to censor her spam. And if you know how the block feature works on this site, it's not even that; My quote above was specifically followed up with how much I don't want her opinions censored, so funny you would crop that out. In fact, that was the whole purpose to me making that post.

So somehow, this debacle started in texas, and you took a train to russia.