Race versus culture

[davidm]

I resolved not to look in on this thread or the other sexist thread, but every now and then I dip my toe in. I can't help it!

All that money would go up in a puff of crack smoke.

So you think all black people smoke crack? And, what ... no whites do? Or take opioids? Opioid addiction today is a major issue among whites.

Oh, I know! You probably think whites are taking opioids because of their despair at being the victims of discrimination. What a joke!

I certainly do have a conscience ...

You've got nothing at all. You're an empty, ignorant dolt.

BTW, as explained earlier, there is more genetic variation among whites, then between whites and blacks.

Races do not exist biologically. They are arbitrary cultural constructs.

[Belinda]

Seleucus wrote:

Just keep perceiving every event through the lens of an evil oppressor and a poor suffering victim. And always gloat about your superior morality and put down others while you're at it. Because that's the relativity that actually out there, right? It isn't just a cognitive distortion, right? That way of seeing things isn't just an ego game, right?

You say a lens I say a moral criterion which is a better moral criterion than yours which is might is right.

Whose henchman would you be?

[Arising_uk]

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I certainly do have a conscience, but that is a very different thing from the pathological guilt and white night cos-play that the White race has been deep in for more than half a century. ...

You've really not met many white people have you. I think you mean Americans.

[Seleucus]

I resolved not to look in on this thread or the other sexist thread, but every now and then I dip my toe in. I can't help it!

All that money would go up in a puff of crack smoke.

So you think all black people smoke crack? And, what ... no whites do? Or take opioids? Opioid addiction today is a major issue among whites.

Oh, I know! You probably think whites are taking opioids because of their despair at being the victims of discrimination. What a joke!

If you have been following our discussion you'll know I suspect that the humiliation of fighting a strength draining fratricidal war leading to the loss of global leadership is what lead to the demoralization of the White race: https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/745078923930378240

BTW, as explained earlier, there is more genetic variation among whites, then between whites and blacks.

And, as I've replied to you literally four times now:

There is significantly more genetic variation between males than there is among females. So what? What does that prove about anything.

Furthermore, there may be significant variation between people with black skin on the continent of Africa, Africa being the homeland of the human race, but I would be skeptical that there is more variation among Black people, that is to say the haplogroup E peoples who speak Niger–Congo languages, i.e. excluding San and Semitics. Those E-Bantus, lets call them, all have pretty similar round heads and frizzy hair. White people by contrast have half a dozen haplogroups, half a dozen hair colors from strait to frizzy, and an infinity of eye colors. As well, since White might include all the Indo-Europeans, the Uralics, the, Caucasians, and the Semites, I'm rather doubtful.

Go ahead and post links to scholarly pdfs that support your view that Black people have a more varied genome... I'm waiting...

Races do not exist biologically. They are arbitrary cultural constructs.

So when you endlessly call people "racist" what could that mean? Or what does it mean when you improbably claim Blacks have more genetic variation than Whites.

[Seleucus]

Seleucus wrote:

Just keep perceiving every event through the lens of an evil oppressor and a poor suffering victim. And always gloat about your superior morality and put down others while you're at it. Because that's the relativity that actually out there, right? It isn't just a cognitive distortion, right? That way of seeing things isn't just an ego game, right?

You say a lens I say a moral criterion which is a better moral criterion than yours which is might is right.

Whose henchman would you be?

I suspect that the universe isn't organized at an ontological level between oppressors and victims... I suspect critical theory/political correctness is a analytical tool, that has run amok to the point many people have forgotten that it's just a method and are now locked into a delusional cognitive distortion they take for reality.

[Seleucus]

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I certainly do have a conscience, but that is a very different thing from the pathological guilt and white night cos-play that the White race has been deep in for more than half a century. ...

You've really not met many white people have you. I think you mean Americans.

If only. I glance at the BBC and the CBC from time to time, and occasionally watch Australian television so I know political correctness is quite wide spread; on the Continent too. Critical theory is the dominant narrative in social sciences. I pretty much burst out laughing when I watched Guy Ritchie's King Arthur and Sir Lancelot was a Chinaman and Sir Galahad a Black man, wtf?

This isn't the first depressive episode in the history of our civilization. A great awakening is happening now. Look at what the BBC is teaching us about even this very day: http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-41757047

[Belinda]

Seleucus wrote:

I suspect that the universe isn't organized at an ontological level between oppressors and victims... I suspect critical theory/political correctness is a analytical tool, that has run amok to the point many people have forgotten that it's just a method and are now locked into a delusional cognitive distortion they take for reality.

But much of the biosphere is organised for predation . Man alone(as far as we know) has insight into the biosphere and the facts of predation. Man alone has institutionalised codes of morality which make would-be greedy men into socialised men. I noted that you said you are a supporter of Trump. If it suited him, he would eat you up too.

Regarding Savitri Devi: 'Come to my woman's breasts and take my milk for gall, you murdering ministers, Wherever in your sightless substances you wait on nature's mischief.' (Lady Macbeth, and see what happened to her she went mad)

[Londoner]

If you don't understand what "spirituality" means, you have not yet attained humanity. A soulless capitalist borg? I guess you don't know a thing about this stuff, but rather than trembling in awe at your origins and who you really are, you make bitchy sarcastic comments.

Carry on with the retreat into mysticism, because all your empirical claims have been shown to be bogus.

Varg Vikernes's video was of stunning depth. Incredible that the May Queen and King and other ancient Indo-European spiritual traditions still exist all the way from Iceland to Bangladesh. Why do you think this stuff is so taboo? Why do the modern statist establishment and the corporate media and the banker capitalists hate and repress the awakening right? Have you wondered about that? Have you asked yourself if you've been duped?

It was drivel. Like you, he only seizes on similarities where they confirm his agenda, but ignores anything that would contradict it.

I can see why you are now bringing in a conspiracy theory to help with this process. Contradictory evidence? It is part of the conspiracy! So the more people show you are wrong, the more it will confirm your conspiracy theory!

The neo-Nazi core of your theory is slipping out now; references to Neo-Nazi websites, the stuff about 'Aryans' and a superior sort of human who impose their will on the rest. Now we have the conspiracy of those 'banker capitalists'. I wonder what 'race' you think they are? Or do you think you have been so cunning we can't tell where you are going with this?

[Seleucus]

The neo-Nazi core of your theory is slipping out now; references to Neo-Nazi websites, the stuff about 'Aryans' and a superior sort of human who impose their will on the rest.

No one cares anymore about being called a nazi racist sexist homophobic transphobic Islamophobic antisemitic. You called wolf too many times and now no one believes you any more.

Two new vids from Tomas Rowsell. This guy's pretty legit, his masters thesis on the horse in the Indo-European spiritual tradition is available online,

Neolithic migration of Levantine agriculturalists (Natufians) into Europe: https://youtu.be/yZD2VaZHA2g

Indo-European festivals, gods, and the place of elves: https://youtu.be/H5Y1RqCbuJE

Our origins and who we really are was hidden from us by the Church and modernists and capitalist. Rediscovering this stuff is like awakening from sleep or a fog of forgetfulness, it's so powerful and sublime.

[Seleucus]

Regarding Savitri Devi: 'Come to my woman's breasts and take my milk for gall, you murdering ministers, Wherever in your sightless substances you wait on nature's mischief.' (Lady Macbeth, and see what happened to her she went mad)

Just read over the BBC article and the Wiki article, looks like, as with most rightists (Traditionalists), she was very into environmentalism and also animal rights. I downloaded a few of her books, looks like The lightning and the sun is the one you'll want to to get an in depth perspective on her philosophical outlook:

http://www.jrbooksonline.com/PDF_Books/lightningsun.pdf
https://ia902608.us.archive.org/18/item ... 8432P..pdf

[Seleucus]

Happy Halloween!

[Londoner]

No one cares anymore about being called a nazi racist sexist homophobic transphobic Islamophobic antisemitic. You called wolf too many times and now no one believes you any more.

I think you are probably a neo-Nazi because you choose to give links to Neo-Nazi websites that endorse your opinion. The mythologizing and the stuff about 'Aryans' would tend to confirm this.

As to the rest, I neither know nor care.

If you think I am the one lacking credibility here. you are sadly mistaken.

[Belinda]

Seleucus wrote:

Our origins and who we really are was hidden from us by the Church and modernists and capitalist. Rediscovering this stuff is like awakening from sleep or a fog of forgetfulness, it's so powerful and sublime.

You are so unrealistic that I wonder if you are just a troll.

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Regarding Savitri Devi: 'Come to my woman's breasts and take my milk for gall, you murdering ministers, Wherever in your sightless substances you wait on nature's mischief.' (Lady Macbeth, and see what happened to her she went mad)

Just read over the BBC article and the Wiki article, looks like, as with most rightists (Traditionalists), she was very into environmentalism and also animal rights. I downloaded a few of her books, looks like The lightning and the sun is the one you'll want to to get an in depth perspective on her philosophical outlook:

http://www.jrbooksonline.com/PDF_Books/lightningsun.pdf
https://ia902608.us.archive.org/18/item ... 8432P..pdf

Lady MacBeth was an environmentalist and into animal rights? For heaven's sake, there was no environment back then! And as for animals, they were mostly eaten. Some were kept as beasts of burden, and some as lovers and other strangers.

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No one cares anymore about being called a nazi racist sexist homophobic transphobic Islamophobic antisemitic. You called wolf too many times and now no one believes you any more.

Not exactly quite so precisely. I believe him (or her). I believe you are a neo-nazi, white supremacist, antisemitic antiislamic racist. I am not sure about homophobia, or sexism. I believe you are a wolf, called out many times for very good reasons.

In other words... I still care.