I am an Islamophobe. If you are not, you might not be a moral person.

[Science Fan]

It's not just that the attacks were committed by Muslims, in the name of the alleged Allah, but Islamic doctrine itself has numerous passages that call for Muslims to murder non-Muslims. Stating that an Islamic terrorist attack has "nothing to do with Islam" is simply false. Demonstrably so. Now, I'm not advocating that we persecute all Muslims, but, we should never turn a blind eye to relevant facts. Islam is a problem, and, like all problems, it cannot be addressed unless it is first fully recognized as being a problem.

[Immanuel Can]

It's not just that the attacks were committed by Muslims, in the name of the alleged Allah, but Islamic doctrine itself has numerous passages that call for Muslims to murder non-Muslims. Stating that an Islamic terrorist attack has "nothing to do with Islam" is simply false. Demonstrably so. Now, I'm not advocating that we persecute all Muslims, but, we should never turn a blind eye to relevant facts. Islam is a problem, and, like all problems, it cannot be addressed unless it is first fully recognized as being a problem.

How is what you are saying even controversial? That's what I can't understand.

[Science Fan]

How did people get so far off topic as to discuss the pledge of allegiance? Funny, since Americans don't have to say it, ever, and the citizenship oath, for countries like New Zealand, according to what I just looked up, reference an oath to a royal ruler, as well as god. In Britain, there is an official church, and a royal family. In fact, there are royal families throughout Europe. No American has ever been required to swear some oath to some alleged king or queen. If people want to start a discussion on how irrational the pledge of allegiance is, then why stop with America, when I'm sure the vast majority of nations around the globe have similar idiocy on display for everyone to see? The pledge in America was authored by a national socialist, not by the Founders, and many Americans think the pledge is an antiquated relic. It never affects me on a daily basis at all.

[Science Fan]

I'm not sure why it would be controversial, except, some politically correct leftists go out of their way to deny the real facts about Islam. Many of these same people who claim Islam is a religion of peace have never even read the Koran or any of the Hadith collections --- they merely assume what information is written within the Koran and the Hadiths. I have read the Koran and a number of Hadith writings, and there are most definitely numerous passages in Islam specifically stating that Muslims should murder off non-Muslims. I have also personally spoken with a number of Muslims who readily admit that this is true. Yet, any politician who would publicly read a violent passage contained within Islam, after an Islamic terrorist attack, would most likely be condemned as an "Islamophobe." Since when is telling the truth an issue? I have no idea when that happened, but, it damn well did.

[Arising_uk]

... No American has ever been required to swear some oath to some alleged king or queen. ...

Nor has any born-Brit. Such things as swearing oaths are for immigrants same as in America I'd assume?

[Arising_uk]

And how many more innocents will have to be stabbed in the guts before we decide that these men weren't Quakers or Bahai or Maoris or a wandering gang of Aztec ne'er-do-wells, and start assigning the blame exactly where the perpetrators so ardently tell us we should?

You're a religious zealot so we know where you're coming from.

How about these?

http://www.alternet.org/tea-party-and-r ... -white-men

No don't tell me - they weren't Christians.

[Greatest I am]

It's not just that the attacks were committed by Muslims, in the name of the alleged Allah, but Islamic doctrine itself has numerous passages that call for Muslims to murder non-Muslims. Stating that an Islamic terrorist attack has "nothing to do with Islam" is simply false. Demonstrably so. Now, I'm not advocating that we persecute all Muslims, but, we should never turn a blind eye to relevant facts. Islam is a problem, and, like all problems, it cannot be addressed unless it is first fully recognized as being a problem.

How is what you are saying even controversial? That's what I can't understand.

I think that the controversy is that our friend, as well as myself, do not swallow the Noble Lie from governments that religions deserve our respect. Now if we could only stop having our tax dollars stop paying for the shortfall created by religious tax exemptions.

I prefer freedom from religions more than freedom of religions.

Regards
DL

[Greatest I am]

How did people get so far off topic as to discuss the pledge of allegiance?

Possibly because when Muslims pledge their allegiance to the American flag, --- when they give their citizen oath of allegiance, they are flying their own star and crescent and are aligned with Sharia law instead of U.S. law.

Regards
DL

[Arising_uk]

Trending buzzword of the day in the context of Muslims:

"internment".

We tried it with the Irish Christian terrorists - it didn't work.

You really need to stop treating these people as what they claim and just treat them as criminals.

[Arising_uk]

Possibly because when Muslims pledge their allegiance to the American flag, --- when they give their citizen oath of allegiance, they are flying their own star and crescent and are aligned with Sharia law instead of U.S. law. ...

Are they all Turks then?

[Greatest I am]

And how many more innocents will have to be stabbed in the guts before we decide that these men weren't Quakers or Bahai or Maoris or a wandering gang of Aztec ne'er-do-wells, and start assigning the blame exactly where the perpetrators so ardently tell us we should?

You're a religious zealot so we know where you're coming from.

How about these?

http://www.alternet.org/tea-party-and-r ... -white-men

No don't tell me - they weren't Christians.

I do not see much difference between a right wing Christian and right wing Muslim. Both camps have really immoral tenants.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYV7KWQ-fY4

Regards
DL

[Arising_uk]

Since when is telling the truth an issue? I have no idea when that happened, but, it damn well did.

Here's one then, Christians and their 'God' are going to slaughter billions of us and then rule over us with a rod of iron in the future.

[Arising_uk]

I do not see much difference between a right wing Christian and right wing Muslim. Both camps have really immoral tenants.

Raise their rent or evict them then.

[Greatest I am]

Possibly because when Muslims pledge their allegiance to the American flag, --- when they give their citizen oath of allegiance, they are flying their own star and crescent and are aligned with Sharia law instead of U.S. law. ...

Are they all Turks then?

Not that I know of.

Regards
DL

[Arising_uk]

Not that I know of.

Then why the star and crescent?