another pointless thread...existential grousing

[vegetariantaxidermy]

I didn't suggest going private because private schools in the US cost a fortune. Unless Henry is a billionaire.

13K-20K

Plenty of non-billionaire kids go to private schools.

It's still a heck of a lot of money.

[Walker]

I didn't suggest going private because private schools in the US cost a fortune. Unless Henry is a billionaire.

13K-20K

Plenty of non-billionaire kids go to private schools.

It's still a heck of a lot of money.

You should read about Eric Hoffer's life.

The priorities were books, thinking, writing, working.

Everything else literally structured around that.

It all depends upon what's most important to you.

[bobevenson]

How did/do you cope with bullying, Bob ?

As a prophet, I just accept it. But the reason children suffer bullying in school is due 100% to the government.

How do you connect the dots???

PhilX

Please read my immediate reply to the opening post.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Here's the problem. ''Yure just as bad as him.''

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtoJL1NgeSQ

[Philosophy Explorer]

As a prophet, I just accept it. But the reason children suffer bullying in school is due 100% to the government.

How do you connect the dots???

PhilX

Please read my immediate reply to the opening post.

No such thing as a free market when it comes to schooling. It's either public schooling funded by the government or private schooling funded by the parents/guardians (home schooling is very much in the minority).

You still haven't connected the dots. Has the government issued rules or guidelines in regard to bullying? Does the government have courts devoted to the bullying problem?
The government has no puppet strings in connection with bullying. Can you prove your case?

PhilX

[vegetariantaxidermy]

How do you connect the dots???

PhilX

Please read my immediate reply to the opening post.

No such thing as a free market when it comes to schooling. It's either public schooling funded by the government or private schooling funded by the parents/guardians (home schooling is very much in the minority).

You still haven't connected the dots. Has the government issued rules or guidelines in regard to bullying? Does the government have courts devoted to the bullying problem?
The government has no puppet strings in connection with bullying. Can you prove your case?

PhilX

He didn't say it does. He made the point that private schools want your money therefore they will do something about bullies. I'm not sure if that's the case though. Bullies have money too. And I suppose if your whole country is a bully then there's bound to be a trickle-down effect.

[Walker]

No such thing as a free market when it comes to schooling. It's either public schooling funded by the government or private schooling funded by the parents/guardians (home schooling is very much in the minority).

Options:
- Government school taxes.
- Government school taxes + private school costs.

The teacher’s lobby does what it must to keep it that way.
- This discourages the second option.

The teacher’s lobby owns the Democratic Party.
- This is why one hears Progressives saying the oddest things.

[Philosophy Explorer]

Please read my immediate reply to the opening post.

No such thing as a free market when it comes to schooling. It's either public schooling funded by the government or private schooling funded by the parents/guardians (home schooling is very much in the minority).

You still haven't connected the dots. Has the government issued rules or guidelines in regard to bullying? Does the government have courts devoted to the bullying problem?
The government has no puppet strings in connection with bullying. Can you prove your case?

PhilX

He didn't say it does. He made the point that private schools want your money therefore they will do something about bullies. I'm not sure if that's the case though. Bullies have money too. And I suppose if your whole country is a bully then there's bound to be a trickle-down effect.

He implied it. I'm talking about both public and private schooling.

"... if your whole country is a bully..." But it isn't. Far from it so no trickle-down effect to speak of. Bullying is a problem though, both at schools and the workplace.

PhilX

[Walker]

- 8 years old, perfect age for private school.

No billionaires are going to be throwing their weight around at that age.
- Even billionaire parents want their kids to be proper people.
- That's why they're in school.

One can tell by observation if the school is a family atmosphere, which many of them are.
- They have to be. It's part of the draw.

[bobevenson]

How do you connect the dots???

PhilX

Please read my immediate reply to the opening post.

No such thing as a free market when it comes to schooling. It's either public schooling funded by the government or private schooling funded by the parents/guardians (home schooling is very much in the minority).

You still haven't connected the dots. Has the government issued rules or guidelines in regard to bullying? Does the government have courts devoted to the bullying problem?
The government has no puppet strings in connection with bullying. Can you prove your case?

PhilX

Jesus Christ, I'm saying the government shouldn't be involved in education at all; that it should be forced to sell all of its schools, including elementary schools, middle schools, high schools and universities; that it should fire all of its teachers and other educational employees; and that is should abolish its department of education and boards of education. Am I making myself sufficiently clear?

[Philosophy Explorer]

Please read my immediate reply to the opening post.

No such thing as a free market when it comes to schooling. It's either public schooling funded by the government or private schooling funded by the parents/guardians (home schooling is very much in the minority).

You still haven't connected the dots. Has the government issued rules or guidelines in regard to bullying? Does the government have courts devoted to the bullying problem?
The government has no puppet strings in connection with bullying. Can you prove your case?

PhilX

Jesus Christ, I'm saying the government shouldn't be involved in education at all; that it should be forced to sell all of its schools, including elementary schools, middle schools, high schools and universities; that it should fire all of its teachers and other educational employees; and that is should abolish its department of education and boards of education. Am I making myself sufficiently clear?

Now you're contradicting yourself. For example you're saying the government shouldn't be involved in education at all; yet, from the other side of your mouth, you're saying that it should fire all of its teachers (how they would do this after selling all of its schools is beyond me?) and on top of this, abolish its department of education and boards of education. This is being involved in education so what weed are you smoking today Bob as you're flunking Philosophy 101?

PhilX

PS I thought you said you didn't believe in JC.

[bobevenson]

Please, if the government is totally out of education, it has no public schools, teachers or departments of education, right?

[Impenitent]

I call myself an atheist, but, honestly, I don't know what I am.

With absolutely no evidence that 'anyone' is there to justify it, I've spent many a desperate moment asking for assistance. Today, for example, my kid is having significant problems at school. Being the odd man out, he's targeted, bullied, and made to feel 'less than' and 'wrong'.

This stuff weighs heavy on me.

Then, this morning, I read about an Ohio eight-year old who hanged himself after being bullied. Like mine, this was a decent kid who just wanted to be accepted; a kid, like mine, with difficulty focusing and controlling impulses.

Which brings me to this...

If God (a self-directing, intelligent, supranatural being responsible for designing, creating and sustaining reality) exists, has the power to intercede in the world, and has the investment (the interest) in the world that some folks claim, why is my ten year suffering? Why did an eight-year find it necessary to kill himself?

I don't expect my kid to be 'saved' or 'spared'. No, in my desperate pleadings I simply ask that his will be bolstered so that he can bear the miseries.

Me, I do all I can with him, and with the school, to ensure he doesn't get any more of a raw deal than he has already.

Now, mebbe God 'is' holdin' up His end of the deal, mebbe God has a plan, mebbe, for mine, things will get better.

But, it would one ballsy son of a bitch to suggest such things to the parents of that eight-year old.

why god does or doesn't? free will cuts both ways...

-Imp

[Philosophy Explorer]

Please, if the government is totally out of education, it has no public schools, teachers or departments of education, right?

How about vaccines?

PhilX

[ForCruxSake]

Forcing children to hug or shake hands is a form of abuse in itself.

That's a really good point. No one should be forced into physical contact that makes them feel uncomfortable.