Is the term "redneck" politically correct ?

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Go and look for it.

That's not the issue. I very much doubt that you came to your understanding of political correctness by looking it up. The point is that you use it as jargon to silence opposition, exactly as political nuts and their uncritical dupes do.

I wasn't telling you to google it. I was telling you to find it in my comments. Your friend flings about incredibly offensive insults, refuses to define what she means and how they relate to the person she is insulting, and then hides behind her transparent facade of 'goodness, tolerance, and empathy' when she's made it patently obvious she is nothing of the kind.

[marjoram_blues]

People who work hard in the fields deserve respect, don´t they ?

Today farmers drive huge air-conditioned combines (as I saw on TV) and don´t have to expose their body to the sun.

But is the term politically correct ?
Someone who works hard should not be made fun of.
Kain was the first person who worked hard in the fields, together with his mother Eve, while his brother Able was a shepard and had a less hard life that way. Adam was also a shepard.

Kain and Eve were the first rednecks.

First steps to answer this would be:
1. To define or explain what the adjective 'politically correct' means.
2. To define or explain what the term 'redneck' means.

For that - see online dictionary or wikipedia. Or not.
Then engage thinking part of brain.
But why would anyone want to do that ?

[ForCruxSake]

Your new friend is always ordering me to find links to comments she has made only a few days prior (which I have done, since the poor creature obviously suffers from galloping alzheimer's) so you won't mind me telling you to.

The other person with whom you are conversing, has actually previously asked you to STOP the mentions of me, as its "none of his business". Unfortunately, mentions of me seem to pitch up in all sorts of your posts, like you have some form of Tourette's. Stick to the point. Don't let your hatred of me make you look stupid to others. (You see, I can be considerate. )

As to searching out the claims you make. You're the one making the claim. But if you're grossly exaggerating, as I think you are, the post won't be there, making the search redundant.

On top of which, its not for me to look for statements that you attribute to me, such as your stating that I said you were "second only to Hitler". It's for you to prove that I said that or run the risk of being accused of falsehood, or exaggeration . But not even you can do that, if I didn't actually say what you are claiming, to the extent you would have others believe it to be true.

I should be glad really, as you continue to add credence to my claim that you are a hate monger... but these constant tirades are actually becoming boring. They are repetitive and irrelevant.

I've already told you I'm not your mother. Do something for yourself for once.

I have a feeling you're not anyone's mother. But if by some unfortunate chance you are, I'm left to wonder how many calls have been made to social services about your parenting skills, given how you conduct yourself here?

[uwot]

I wasn't telling you to google it. I was telling you to find it in my comments.

Fair enough. This is from the thread that was locked:

...how typically, hypocritically, racist and patronisingly PC of you.*

I think that is a fairly clear example of jargon being used in an attempt to close an argument.
Without making this personal, whatever someone's point is, they might at least present it in a way that is honest and coherent, so that their interlocutor can deal with it fairly, without having to wade through a load of personal insults.

*Am I a man or a woman? Wed Apr 26, 2017 3:22 am

[vegetariantaxidermy]

I wasn't telling you to google it. I was telling you to find it in my comments.

Fair enough. This is from the thread that was locked:

...how typically, hypocritically, racist and patronisingly PC of you.*

I think that is a fairly clear example of jargon being used in an attempt to close an argument.
Without making this personal, whatever someone's point is, they might at least present it in a way that is honest and coherent, so that their interlocutor can deal with it fairly, without having to wade through a load of personal insults.

*Am I a man or a woman? Wed Apr 26, 2017 3:22 am

With no context? Shame on you. Of course, there were no insults directed at me. What was the rest of the comment? What was I responding to? I'm sure there was more then just three dots. That's not a definition of PC anyway. It's just somewhere that it was used. There is no 'jargon'. They are perfectly ordinary words that aren't substituting for better words. There is no single word you can use to replace PC. It's perfect as it is. Are you still being breast fed? You will have to search a bit harder than that. My. How a little ego-massaging can work wonders. Ego-massaging and some strategically placed smilies.

''I have a feeling you're not anyone's mother. But if by some unfortunate chance you are, I'm left to wonder how many calls have been made to social services about your parenting skills, ''
But this isn't insulting or personal at all.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Your new friend is always ordering me to find links to comments she has made only a few days prior (which I have done, since the poor creature obviously suffers from galloping alzheimer's) so you won't mind me telling you to.

The other person with whom you are conversing, has actually previously asked you to STOP the mentions of me, as its "none of his business". Unfortunately, mentions of me seem to pitch up in all sorts of your posts, like you have some form of Tourette's. Stick to the point. Don't let your hatred of me make you look stupid to others. (You see, I can be considerate. )

As to searching out the claims you make. You're the one making the claim. But if you're grossly exaggerating, as I think you are, the post won't be there, making the search redundant.

On top of which, its not for me to look for statements that you attribute to me, such as your stating that I said you were "second only to Hitler". It's for you to prove that I said that or run the risk of being accused of falsehood, or exaggeration . But not even you can do that, if I didn't actually say what you are claiming, to the extent you would have others believe it to be true.

I should be glad really, as you continue to add credence to my claim that you are a hate monger... but these constant tirades are actually becoming boring. They are repetitive and irrelevant.

I've already told you I'm not your mother. Do something for yourself for once.

I have a feeling you're not anyone's mother. But if by some unfortunate chance you are, I'm left to wonder how many calls have been made to social services about your parenting skills, given how you conduct yourself here?

You compared me to Hitler and spufflicated with outraged indignation like a goose on heat when you were asked what you would call Hitler in light of the fact that you throw the word 'racist' around as freely as you do false compliments. A racist is a racist, you thundered. A Ku Klux Klan lyncher is NO different from someone who prefers to live in one of the less 'multicultural' parts of town (you can argue that one with the 'racist' housing market).

[uwot]

With no context? Shame on you.

Ah, so you accept that words need context.

Of course, there were no insults directed at me.

That's not the point. To remind you, the issue is that you are using politicised jargon in precisely the way you were criticising.

What was the rest of the comment? What was I responding to? I'm sure there was more then just three dots.

Well, I'm not your mother either. Look it up.

That's not a definition of PC anyway.

No. That is not the point.

Are you still being breast fed? You will have to search a bit harder than that. My. How a little ego-massaging can work wonders. Ego-massaging and some strategically placed smilies.

And that really isn't the point.

''I have a feeling you're not anyone's mother. But if by some unfortunate chance you are, I'm left to wonder how many calls have been made to social services about your parenting skills, ''
But this isn't insulting or personal at all.

It is nothing to do with me.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

With no context? Shame on you.

Ah, so you accept that words need context.

Of course, there were no insults directed at me.

That's not the point. To remind you, the issue is that you are using politicised jargon in precisely the way you were criticising.

What was the rest of the comment? What was I responding to? I'm sure there was more then just three dots.

Well, I'm not your mother either. Look it up.

That's not a definition of PC anyway.

No. That is not the point.

Are you still being breast fed? You will have to search a bit harder than that. My. How a little ego-massaging can work wonders. Ego-massaging and some strategically placed smilies.

And that really isn't the point.

''I have a feeling you're not anyone's mother. But if by some unfortunate chance you are, I'm left to wonder how many calls have been made to social services about your parenting skills, ''
But this isn't insulting or personal at all.

It is nothing to do with me.

Nothing to do with you? It is, when you are playing her knight in shining armour and carefully cherry-picking comments I've made to her. Why do you keep poking your nose in anyway? You haven't even registered on my radar the entire time I've been on this site. And yes, it is the point. You went off to look for my definition of PC, and came back with the letters 'P' and 'C'. Did you type PC into the search bar?
Wow. If you are a 'big boy of philosophy' then I must be the sum total of the mass of the entire Universe.

[uwot]

Wow. If you are a 'big boy of philosophy' then I must be the sum total of the entire mass of the Universe.

As I said, 'big boy of philosophy' is not a term I have applied to myself, but here you are again using "jargon to silence and bully opposition into silence and submission".

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Wow. If you are a 'big boy of philosophy' then I must be the sum total of the entire mass of the Universe.

As I said, 'big boy of philosophy' is not a term I have applied to myself, but here you are again using "jargon to silence and bully opposition into silence and submission".

So. You don't know what jargon is. And you don't know what PC means. Perhaps you should stick to writing boring threads about god. Those sort of threads are very popular with the religious on here. Btw, you do realise that your friend is watching this, waiting to see how you 'perform'. She will waddle in soon and announce that you have 'annihilated' me with your 'big boy philosophy'. I can't wait.

[uwot]

So. You don't know what jargon is. And you don't know what PC means. Perhaps you should stick to writing boring threads about god. Those kind of threads are very popular with the religious on here.

Maybe, but we're here now. Again, the issue is not particularly the meaning of PC, I'm sure we both have a perfectly workable understanding of what it means; what is interesting is that you are content to use it as a term of abuse in precisely the way that serves the political ends of right wing agitators.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

So. You don't know what jargon is. And you don't know what PC means. Perhaps you should stick to writing boring threads about god. Those kind of threads are very popular with the religious on here.

Maybe, but we're here now. Again, the issue is not particularly the meaning of PC, I'm sure we both have a perfectly workable understanding of what it means; what is interesting is that you are content to use it as a term of abuse in precisely the way that serves the political ends of right wing agitators.

You obviously don't. I haven't seen you defining it, except to label me 'right-wing' for using it. I couldn't give a flying fuck if the 'right-wing' has as much of a clue about its meaning as you do. Why am I responsible for their alleged mis-use of it? Are you referring to retarded illiterate American fundy kristians?
The PC have a lot more in common with right-wing fascists than I do.

[ForCruxSake]

You compared me to Hitler and spufflicated with outraged indignation like a goose on heat when you were asked what you would call Hitler in light of the fact that you throw the word 'racist' around as freely as you do false compliments. A racist is a racist, you thundered. A Ku Klux Klan lyncher is NO different from someone who prefers to live in one of the less 'multicultural' parts of town (you can argue that one with the 'racist' housing market).

It would be simpler if you provided the link, as you've lost me... But it's rather pointless for the following reasons:

I was questioning your use of the hyperbole that stated, I called you "second only to Hitler", which literally wasn't true, was it?.

I've admitted to comparing you to Hitler and even justified why. So no argument there.

A person who lives in a multiracial community that glibly blames rising crime rates on the racial component of that community, as you did, in one of your posts, *is* as racist as a Ku Klux Klan member, as far as I am concerned. It was a crass, throw away line on your part, unsupported and inflammatory, and racist in content. The kind of rhetoric used, time and time again, by political parties, whose aim is to actively discriminate against those of other cultures. They are racist by nature, however justified they might feel. Can't be more plain than that.

I don't throw round the word racist lightly. It is you who seem to want to brand people with terms, insults or just plain expletives. That my response may have been angry, is that you breed anger. You hound people and deliberately try to ramp up anger. When you have hate-filled fury coming at you, it's hard not to reflect some of it back.

I hope you appreciate the more rational approach I am trying to take with you.

[uwot]

So. You don't know what jargon is. And you don't know what PC means. Perhaps you should stick to writing boring threads about god. Those kind of threads are very popular with the religious on here.

Maybe, but we're here now. Again, the issue is not particularly the meaning of PC, I'm sure we both have a perfectly workable understanding of what it means; what is interesting is that you are content to use it as a term of abuse in precisely the way that serves the political ends of right wing agitators.

You obviously don't.

Works for me.

I haven't seen you defining it, except to label me 'right-wing' for using it.

That is not what I said. I pointed out that the way you use PC as a term of abuse serves the political ends of right wing agitators.

I couldn't give a flying fuck if the 'right-wing' has as much of a clue about its meaning as you do. Why am I responsible for their alleged mis-use of it?

They are not mis-using it; they are the ones who invented it.

The PC have a lot more in common with right-wing fascists than I do.

How would you justify such a claim?

[vegetariantaxidermy]

You compared me to Hitler and spufflicated with outraged indignation like a goose on heat when you were asked what you would call Hitler in light of the fact that you throw the word 'racist' around as freely as you do false compliments. A racist is a racist, you thundered. A Ku Klux Klan lyncher is NO different from someone who prefers to live in one of the less 'multicultural' parts of town (you can argue that one with the 'racist' housing market).

It would be simpler if you provided the link, as you've lost me... But it's rather pointless for the following reasons:

I was questioning your use of the hyperbole that stated, I called you "second only to Hitler", which literally wasn't true, was it?.

I've admitted to comparing you to Hitler and even justified why. So no argument there.

A person who lives in a multiracial community that glibly blames rising crime rates on the racial component of that community, as you did, in one of your posts, *is* as racist as a Ku Klux Klan member, as far as I am concerned. It was a crass, throw away line on your part, unsupported and inflammatory, and racist in content. The kind of rhetoric used, time and time again, by political parties, whose aim is to actively discriminate against those of other cultures. They are racist by nature, however justified they might feel. Can't be more plain than that.

I don't throw round the word racist lightly. It is you who seem to want to brand people with terms, insults or just plain expletives. That my response may have been angry, is that you breed anger. You hound people and deliberately try to ramp up anger. When you have hate-filled fury coming at you, it's hard not to reflect some of it back.

I hope you appreciate the more rational approach I am trying to take with you.

No argument, so you do what you always do: lie lie and lie. Why don't you crawl back under the rock you slithered out from? Where have I ever used the word 'multiracial'? You seem to have a huge problem with the words 'culture', 'race', and 'Nationality'. You obviously think they are all the same thing.
And how on earth would you know what kind of community I live in?
The person who most resembles a racist here is you. You obviously think non-whites are terribly inferior people, which is why you send your demonspawn to 'reputable' schools. You also keep assuming that all non-whites must be poor (or 'low-socioeconomic' to be 'correct') with absolutely no control over their impulses to commit crimes. Shame on you.