uwot wrote:ForCruxSake wrote:Where are you from?
A place northeast of Dorking called London.
Ah, London, that place north of Brighton and east of Reading. That makes two of us. 'Care to share ' never brought out any slaps round our way. Even the boys from the 'east end' bandy it about.
uwot wrote:ForCruxSake wrote:Where I come from it's a prompt to show that someone isn't actually bored of what you've said so far.
Then that is what I shall take you to mean.
Good because it's good to receive another gift wrapped reply from you.
uwot wrote:ForCruxSake wrote:...if you're not hard-of-thinking.
I do my best.
I can see that.
uwot wrote:
ForCruxSake wrote:That a group anywhere in the world has developed an organised way of running a community, based on the rule of women, deserves investigation or exploration.
I have four sisters. Believe me, it's been done.
You should read 'No More Mr Nice Guy' by Robert A Glover, about men, who may well have grown up around women, who develop a 'nice guy' persona, finding it difficult to achieve what it is that they want for themselves.
uwot wrote:If is your thing, then absolutely; but it is a very small sample and one which, as the article suggests, is likely to disappear with no obvious resistance from the subjects.
I think it suggests a liberal attitude, with people coming and going, but not that it will disappear
uwot wrote:ForCruxSake wrote:I get that you are scientific in your approach to thinking, but the way you express yourself suggests you have a less than rigid, 'on point' way of thinking. You seem a little bit more able to let yourself go in the way you write.
Force of habit. Or maybe my genetic/cerebral architecture. Nurture? Nature? Dunno. Even I find myself infuriating.
"Even"? Are you suggesting I find you infuriating? Or others???
uwot wrote:ForCruxSake wrote:All I'm asking is for *your* opinion on what may be going on, not a correct observation.
Well, the article doesn't put much meat on the bone. It would be interesting to know about their mythology and scientific theories. There are, or were, cultures that didn't equate sex with reproduction, I can't remember the details, but I think it was some Polynesian group, the men of whom would go exploring the South Pacific, come back a year or two later, thrilled that they were the father of a newborn. Paternity does complicate things, which, come to think of it, may be why Plato recommended that children be brought up communally in the Republic.
Great point.
uwot wrote:ForCruxSake wrote:You mentioned earlier about women having to overcome ideas of feminine conduct in the boardroom. Women are different in the boardroom to how they may show their true selves in any other form of contact.
What do you think that says about men in the boardroom?
That they stay in the framework of masculinity, however that might manifest itself in the rest if their lives. Unlike with women.
uwot wrote:ForCruxSake wrote:My original hope for the post was that people might think in an original way. Be a bit creative about what the world would be like if those rules were reversed and the rules had been, or were, set by women.
We can all wonder. The current experiment with liberal democracy was, and despite going a bit pear shaped at the moment, remains our best hope, in my opinion. It is the best defence we have against psychopaths running the place, but it really needs to be worked at.
Or readdressed and reformed, from top to bottom.
uwot wrote:ForCruxSake wrote:Clearly not the forum for this kind of thinking. Many people here don't think. They fight and, in fighting, resist thinking. I just want a bit of colour beyond the usual crap that takes place here.
Hmm. (And before you ask: no.)
