What Book Changed Your Mind?

[Dalek Prime]

I may dip into that myself. Thank goodness for e readers. I'd be interested to see what Zizek sees in Hegel, though.

Does Russell give up, or just understand limitations?

[Hobbes' Choice]

I may dip into that myself. Thank goodness for e readers. I'd be interested to see what Zizek sees in Hegel, though.

Does Russell give up, or just understand limitations?

Neither Russell, not Copelston knew about Zizek sadly.

I think Russell called Hegel the hardest to understand of all philosophers. In my view Russell's 15 pages is all you should, or need to read about Hegel.

[yiostheoy]

I may dip into that myself. Thank goodness for e readers. I'd be interested to see what Zizek sees in Hegel, though.

Does Russell give up, or just understand limitations?

That's a really good question about Russell.

Even in his day and age -- the mid 20th Century -- it would have been dangerous to go full bore atheist.

He hints at his own atheism by calling it philosophical agnosticism.

But he stops short of a confession of his own biases which are all due to WW1.

To get the full story on his life you need to read "To End All Wars" by Hochschild. Hochschild mentions Russell a lot in the dialog on UK conscientious objectors to the 1st world war.

You can tell when you read Russell however that he gives short shrift to the various classic proofs of god. He labels them as affirmations of the consequent.

The proofs are not affirmations of the consequent however. They are simply a dilemma of paradox.

Either you live with the paradox of "no first cause" or else you live with the paradox of "infinite first cause". You cannot have it both ways and you cannot ignore the issue.

So I believe that Russell does NOT understand limitations.

He does also NOT recognize his own biases.

But even so his book "History Of Western Philosophy" is a good summary in 895 pages or less, including the bibliography and index.

[Dalek Prime]

Many philosophers and writers couch their less popular beliefs and thoughts. We all self-censor to get along.

[Hobbes' Choice]

I may dip into that myself. Thank goodness for e readers. I'd be interested to see what Zizek sees in Hegel, though.

Does Russell give up, or just understand limitations?

That's a really good question about Russell.

Even in his day and age -- the mid 20th Century -- it would have been dangerous to go full bore atheist.

He hints at his own atheism by calling it philosophical agnosticism..

Russell was a declared atheist, and said so quite early on in his career.
Educate yourself:
http://www2.fiu.edu/~sabar/enc3311/Why% ... ussell.pdf

[Hobbes' Choice]

Many philosophers and writers couch their less popular beliefs and thoughts. We all self-censor to get along.

Don't be fooled, yiostheoy does not know what he is talking about.
Russell was openly atheistic, and came from a atheistic tradition. John Stewart Mill was a friend of his parents. Britain was well ahead of the game in this respect in the 19thC.

[Dalek Prime]

Many philosophers and writers couch their less popular beliefs and thoughts. We all self-censor to get along.

Don't be fooled, yiostheoy does not know what he is talking about.
Russell was openly atheistic, and came from a atheistic tradition. John Stewart Mill was a friend of his parents. Britain was well ahead of the game in this respect in the 19thC.

Thanks Hobbes,. Yes, hence he wrote about his teapot, which is the best thing I've ever read on atheism.

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I'm obviously yiostheoy's teapot!!

Do I even exist?

[Hobbes' Choice]

Many philosophers and writers couch their less popular beliefs and thoughts. We all self-censor to get along.

Don't be fooled, yiostheoy does not know what he is talking about.
Russell was openly atheistic, and came from a atheistic tradition. John Stewart Mill was a friend of his parents. Britain was well ahead of the game in this respect in the 19thC.

Thanks Hobbes,. Yes, hence he wrote about his teapot, which is the best thing I've ever read on atheism.

Yes. Simple and masterful at the same time.
it's legendary.

[Dalek Prime]

Hobbes, have you read this contemporary of Russell?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._G._Collingwood

I've been told his essay on metaphysics would be of great interest to me.

[Hobbes' Choice]

Hobbes, have you read this contemporary of Russell?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._G._Collingwood

I've been told his essay on metaphysics would be of great interest to me.

Mmm "Contemporary", yes though, although Russell was 17 years older, had also the distinction of outliving Collingwood by 27 years!

I've read much of his The Idea of History. when i did my MA, but not seen his philosophical stuff.

[Dalek Prime]

Hobbes, have you read this contemporary of Russell?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._G._Collingwood

I've been told his essay on metaphysics would be of great interest to me.

Mmm "Contemporary", yes though, although Russell was 17 years older, had also the distinction of outliving Collingwood by 27 years!

I've read much of his The Idea of History. when i did my MA, but not seen his philosophical stuff.

Yes, he was brought to my attention by a friend. His biggest mark I believe, was on history. But his book on metaphysics is what was recommended to me. First time I've heard of him. Did you like what you've read of his?

[Hobbes' Choice]

Hobbes, have you read this contemporary of Russell?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._G._Collingwood

I've been told his essay on metaphysics would be of great interest to me.

Mmm "Contemporary", yes though, although Russell was 17 years older, had also the distinction of outliving Collingwood by 27 years!

I've read much of his The Idea of History. when i did my MA, but not seen his philosophical stuff.

Yes, he was brought to my attention by a friend. His biggest mark I believe, was on history. But his book on metaphysics is what was recommended to me. First time I've heard of him. Did you like what you've read of his?

I seem to remember his Idea of History was published posthumously after WW2. I found him clear thinking and capable of unpacking accepted dogmatic and unexamined assumptions. Though his language was from the 1940s it was clear and easy to grasp.
I'd give him a try. Have you looked on Abebooks for his stuff?

http://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/Searc ... prevpage=2


Oh here is its

http://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/BookD ... ollingwood

[grayson]

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