Is the US President supposed to represent all the people?

[Walker]

Re: Press conference

Two people see the same event and see different things, conclude different understandings of what is most significant about the event.

Unless one of the two is the arbiter of the world, rationally supported interpretations that account for the purpose of the event are the most plausible.

It can be any event. Even two people physically living through a shared experience will create different memories flavored with whatever personal irrelevancies and associations are floating through consciousness at the time.

The media doesn’t call the shots — Trump does
http://nypost.com/2017/02/19/the-media- ... rump-does/

“It was an extraordinary use of the bully pulpit, yet accounts calling it a nonstop rant don’t do it justice. Some of it was playful and teasing, and Trump wasn’t alone in finding humor on several occasions. Many journalists clearly enjoyed the raucous informality, which included back-and-forth exchanges where some freely talked over the president.

“Contrast that with the previous eight years of news conferences, where President Barack Obama generally delivered long lectures to an amen chorus.

“There was contrast, too, in Trump spending 50 minutes taking more than 40 questions, all spontaneous and none arranged in advance. It was a scrum to be called on, and no topic was off-topic — he answered them all.

“He also made errors, repeated himself frequently and some answers raised more questions. But the overall performance was incredibly effective at creating a very different narrative about his tenure for the TV audience — the people he cares about most.”

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Rather fearless or foolish to publically call the press the corrupt enemy of the people right to their face, and then give them so much fodder.

[artisticsolution]

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Rather fearless or foolish to publically call the press the corrupt enemy of the people right to their face, and then give them so much fodder.

It will be interesting to see who wins this fight. My money is on the press. I think Trump is going down because it is now a challenge for the press to uncover every horrific act trump has ever done. But just like the absurd love of the woman in the movie "The Third Man" you will turn a blind eye. And perhaps...even champion Trump as he tries to abolish freedom of speech.

[Skip]

.... it is now a challenge for the press to uncover every horrific act trump has ever done.

Where were they during the campaign, when it might have prevented this catastrophe?

[Walker]

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Rather fearless or foolish to publically call the press the corrupt enemy of the people right to their face, and then give them so much fodder.

It will be interesting to see who wins this fight. My money is on the press. I think Trump is going down because it is now a challenge for the press to uncover every horrific act trump has ever done. But just like the absurd love of the woman in the movie "The Third Man" you will turn a blind eye. And perhaps...even champion Trump as he tries to abolish freedom of speech.

Trump is simply calling the press on their corruption. A free and honest press is important.

Simply because the press is corrupt in its current form does not equate to Trump trying to abolish freedom of speech.

The press is free to continue looking like idiotic liars for all the world to see.

Here's some help for those too busy to look past the headlines.

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As of lately, Trump is again ahead of the curve.

The tally of lies has already begun.

Bookmark for weekly updates.

MSM in the headline = Main Stream Media.

President Trump's declared enemy.


Fake News Rap Sheet: Last Week the MSM Was Caught Telling FORTY Lies

http://www.dailywire.com/news/13294/fak ... exit-modal

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Forty lies, and more in the weeks before that.

There will be many more.

Trump against the entire establishment is what's going on.

As you say, the safe money is on the establishment. The odds are overwhelming.

Trump only has the people on his side, for awhile. People are fickle.

Oh yes, he does have the constitution also. There is that. Makes for an interesting test of the experiment.

[Gustav Bjornstrand]

An interesting perspective. See part 1 and part 3 also.

The trick, when it comes to Trump, is to attempt to avoid the hype, the distortion, the emotionalism and the hysteria, and to distinguish 'what is really happening' from what (the press for example!) says is happening, or want to insist is happening. At the least it would seem to me important to be able to consider the 'press' as an instrument of state propaganda, or to be more fair, the state's expression of its distorted views. It is clear that with the loss of HRC, the 'state' has been in angusih.

What are the interests that stand behind Clinton and what are those that stand behind Trump? To answer that questions requires a better understanding of the 'invisible state' and powerful state power-blocks or concentrations of power that do not, and cannot, operate overtly in our *democracy*.

If we (any of us) can successfully see and understand the degree to which our own perception is manipulated, and how we tend to respond out of distorted perspectives, we will then be in a position where we might actually begin to distinguish what is good and positive, and negative an undesirable, in Trump as president.

[Skip]

What I want to know is:
Which of the fake news media is responsible for this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00d5zUFeeEk
They must have colluded, since all the MSM networks showed the same video.
So, who made the leader of the free world look like a blathering idiot, and how was it done?

And then I demand to know:
What have they done with the genuine, tell-it-like-it-is, strong and dynamic maker-great-again-again of America?
Where are they hiding him? Has he stroked out already, like on Dave http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106673/
only they couldn't find a coherent double?

That's what I wanna know.

Oh, and I'd also like to know: Is a press conference considered a success now, and a president considered competent, so long as he doesn't actually show up naked and bite somebody? Falling off the stage onto somebody has been done - albeit, only on the mayoral level as yet - and the Gooney bird headgear is a matter of definition and/or degree.

[Hobbes' Choice]

Freely stolen from Facebook.

1. He called Hillary Clinton a crook.
You bought it.
Then he paid $25 million to settle a fraud lawsuit.
2. He said he'd release his tax returns, eventually.
You bought it.
He hasn't, and says he never will.
3. He said he'd divest himself from his financial empire, to avoid any conflicts of interest.
You bought it.
He is still heavily involved in his businesses, manipulates the stock market on a daily basis, and has more conflicts of interest than can even be counted.
4. He said Clinton was in the pockets of Goldman Sachs, and would do whatever they said.
You bought it.
He then proceeded to put half a dozen Goldman Sachs executives in positions of power in his administration.
5. He said he'd surround himself with all the best and smartest people.
You bought it.
He nominated theocratic loon Mike Pence for Vice President. A white supremacist named Steve Bannon is his most trusted confidant. Dr. Ben Carson, the world's greatest idiot savant brain surgeon, is in charge of HUD. Russian quisling Rex Tillerson is Secretary of State.
6. He said he'd be his own man, beholden to no one.
You bought it.
He then appointed Betsy DeVos as Secretary of Education, whose only "qualifications" were the massive amounts of cash she donated to his campaign.
7. He said he would "drain the swamp" of Washington insiders.
You bought it.
He then admitted that was just a corny slogan he said to fire up the rubes during the rallies, and that he didn't mean it.
8. He said he knew more about strategy and terrorism than the Generals did.
You bought it.
He promptly gave the green light to a disastrous raid in Yemen- even though all his Generals said it would be a terrible idea. This raid resulted in the deaths of a Navy SEAL, an 8-year old American girl, and numerous civilians. The actual target of the raid escaped, and no useful intel was gained.
9. He said Hillary Clinton couldn't be counted on in times of crisis.
You bought it.
He didn't even bother overseeing that raid in Yemen; and instead spent the time hate-tweeting the New York Times, and sleeping.
10. He called CNN, the Washington Post and the New York Times "fake news" and said they were his enemy.
You bought it.
He now gets all his information from Breitbart, Gateway Pundit, and InfoWars.
11. He called Barack Obama "the vacationer-in-Chief" and accused him of playing more rounds of golf than Tiger Woods. He promised to never be the kind of president who took cushy vacations on the taxpayer's dime, not when there was so much important work to be done.
You bought it.
He took his first vacation after 11 days in office.
On the taxpayer's dime.
And went golfing.
And that's just the first month.
Copy and pasted (with permission)...
100% accurate, What's it gonna take for people to see... You got played!!!

[Skip]

They'll figure it out when they get the bill. Until then, keeping the delusion in place is just a matter of spinning all the plates faster and harder.

[Walker]

Real news.

He said he would do this.

Homeland Security unveils sweeping plan to deport undocumented immigrants

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati ... /98190192/

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If in doubt make sure your papers are in order.
Most notable is the authority of anyone with a badge to question a human being’s right to walk the streets and breathe the air.

The infrastructure is now in place, thanks to President Obama.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fO-usAlqak

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Real news.

He said he would do this.

Homeland Security unveils sweeping plan to deport undocumented immigrants

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati ... /98190192/

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If in doubt make sure your papers are in order.
Most notable is the authority of anyone with a badge to question a human being’s right to walk the streets and breathe the air.

The infrastructure is now in place, thanks to President Obama.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fO-usAlqak

To be fair, why wouldn't the US deport people who aren't allowed to be there? Especially those who have committed crimes. Isn't this normal practice? The US has had strict immigration laws for a long time. Why are people acting as if this is a completely new phenomenon?
The trouble with Trump is that he doesn't have a clue how to talk like a politician, as his rare press conferences have made painfully clear. This has made him a figure of ridicule. I don't happen to think being good at political-speak bullshit is a sign of high intelligence. It's often quite the opposite. People who can't answer difficult (or even simple) questions become adept at sounding as if they can, without actually saying anything.
Mike Penis is by far the scarier figure, and he's only a hair's width away from the top job.

[Walker]

Real news.

He said he would do this.

Homeland Security unveils sweeping plan to deport undocumented immigrants

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati ... /98190192/

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If in doubt make sure your papers are in order.
Most notable is the authority of anyone with a badge to question a human being’s right to walk the streets and breathe the air.

The infrastructure is now in place, thanks to President Obama.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fO-usAlqak

To be fair, why wouldn't the US deport people who aren't allowed to be there? Especially those who have committed crimes. Isn't this normal practice? The US has had strict immigration laws for a long time. Why are people acting as if this is a completely new phenomenon?
The trouble with Trump is that he doesn't have a clue how to talk like a politician, as his rare press conferences have made painfully clear. This has made him a figure of ridicule. I don't happen to think being good at political-speak bullshit is a sign of high intelligence. It's often quite the opposite. People who can't answer difficult (or even simple) questions become adept at sounding as if they can, without actually saying anything.
Mike Penis is by far the scarier figure, and he's only a hair's width away from the top job.

On that same train of thought, sub-cutaneous ID chips would be a tremendous cost savings for national security. Random transponder checkpoints could act as filters during sweeps of illegals, speeding up the process of ID checks.

The personal ID chips, which would likely contain much information, would be treated sort of like a gold-card. Scanners would eliminate the need for conscientious-citizen chip-holders to endure the indignities of human intervention in random street pat-downs.

The sub-cutaneous chip (SCC), would be provided free of charge as one of the many benefits of status and good citizenship, but designer chips with complimentary tattoos would open up a new industry of employment for those humans displaced by the scanners. The chips will be as ubiquitous as smart-phones, but less obvious.

Of course the implants will be voluntary, after all, it is a free country. But few workers, already weary from cost of living, will pass up incentives for the free and painless procedure of implant. Incentives such as income tax breaks, non-harassment from the authorities, and elevation from the lowlife status of the non-chippers with their cheap cars and clothes, as depicted in song and film and media opinion.

In the TV jingles people will sing, I’m chipper! You can be a chipper too!”

Disney will make an animated film about the life of a chip named Oliver Twist.

[Skip]

To be fair, why wouldn't the US deport people who aren't allowed to be there? Especially those who have committed crimes. Isn't this normal practice?

It always has been. But there is a legal process to determine the validity of both accusations. That can't be carried out in bulk.

Also, of course, the states have always tacitly allowed a large number of undocumented migrants to work for sub-minimum wage, at untaxed, uninsured, uninspected, unsafe, inhumane jobs.

The US has had strict immigration laws for a long time. Why are people acting as if this is a completely new phenomenon?

Because he's botching it and screwing with an enormous, lucrative, interconnected underground economy...
as well as destroying the lives and families of people who have been living marginally, on sufferance, or even, godsfobid, kindness.

The trouble with Trump is that he doesn't have a clue

There. Now it's accurate.

[Walker]

Because he's botching it and screwing with an enormous, lucrative, interconnected underground economy...
as well as destroying the lives and families of people who have been living marginally, on sufferance, or even, godsfobid, kindness.

By that reasoning no parent should go to prison for a crime because the family will be broken up. The actual reason that a family gets broken up in any lawless situation is because the decision maker for the family took a calculated risk to break the law, then suddenly law enforcement resumed. They fought the law, and the law won.

The underground economy leaves the illegal worker vulnerable to abuse, to human rights violations.

Girls and women illegally crossing the border load up on birth control pills for the abuse they will suffer on their journey. Ignoring the laws put in place for the protection of people has led to an abusive system that should end, since it's a corruption of what was meant to be, as determined by the represented will of the people.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

To be fair, why wouldn't the US deport people who aren't allowed to be there? Especially those who have committed crimes. Isn't this normal practice?

It always has been. But there is a legal process to determine the validity of both accusations. That can't be carried out in bulk.

Also, of course, the states have always tacitly allowed a large number of undocumented migrants to work for sub-minimum wage, at untaxed, uninsured, uninspected, unsafe, inhumane jobs.

The US has had strict immigration laws for a long time. Why are people acting as if this is a completely new phenomenon?

Because he's botching it and screwing with an enormous, lucrative, interconnected underground economy...
as well as destroying the lives and families of people who have been living marginally, on sufferance, or even, godsfobid, kindness.

The trouble with Trump is that he doesn't have a clue

There. Now it's accurate.

Then you don't think the US should have any immigration laws? Personally I can't see what Americans are moaning about. Your population is big enough to absorb probably ten times as many immigrants as you take, without swamping the host population. Many countries don't have that luxury.

[Skip]

Then you don't think the US should have any immigration laws?

Either that, or abide by the laws they do have. Not ignore them at their convenience and then go ballistic in misapplying them when a scapegoat is needed. A third alternative would be to make constitutional, sensible, enforceable and consistent laws.

Personally I can't see what Americans are moaning about.

Every-goddam-thing. And the moaning regularly erupts in gunfire.

Your population is big enough to absorb probably ten times as many immigrants as you take, without swamping the host population.

Our population is a little under 32 million, and we've already set a higher quota on refugees than the US has.

Many countries don't have that luxury.

In the US - as in many countries - luxury is increasingly concentrated in a small percentage of the population, while it recedes from the reach of the masses. The masses are, justifiably, anxious, and thus easy to turn against designated fellow victims. Trump is a particularly irresponsible tosser of hapless fish to other hapless fish.