Is transgender something to get upset about?

[Immanuel Can]

You have already stated you believe gender and body dysphoria to be a mental illness,

No. I've stated that the sources I listed and the statistics I quoted say it is. That's quite a different matter, I think you'll find.

I do appreciate you wishing to stay out of my business though, and not asking me to 'drink drano and die, pansy'. Hehe.

I understand Henry's frustration at being insulted, and won't speak for him (He'd barbecue me if I did.)

But I have no such antipathy as you imply to people who suffer. In fact, what kind of an uncompassionate monster could look at people who are resorting to suicide at nearly a 50% rate, and not have mercy?

A Liberal, maybe...so long as she was allowed to pose as "tolerant." But not me.

[Dalek Prime]

You have already stated you believe gender and body dysphoria to be a mental illness,

No. I've stated that the sources I listed and the statistics I quoted say it is. That's quite a different matter, I think you'll find.
DSM changes all the time, granted.

I do appreciate you wishing to stay out of my business though, and not asking me to 'drink drano and die, pansy'. Hehe.

I understand Henry's frustration at being insulted, and won't speak for him (He'd barbecue me if I did.) I will. He's a weak, insecure male. And a shit excuse for a human who thinks that his flaws are okay if he just admits to being flawed.

But I have no such antipathy as you imply to people who suffer. In fact, what kind of an uncompassionate monster could look at people who are resorting to suicide at nearly a 50% rate, and not have mercy?

A Liberal, maybe...so long as she was allowed to pose as "tolerant." But not me.

Or you. But just maybe.

[Harbal]

Wrong. Go back to page 1. You simply won't find more reputable sources.

Nothing that you are involved with is reputable, you reptile, you taint everything you touch with your evil sliminess and diabolical disposition, you agent of hell. Have a nice fucking day.

[Immanuel Can]

And we all know how sexually uptight Americans are...

Were you thinking of Bruce Jenner (American), or RuPaul (American), or maybe Laverne Cox (American)? Those are the prudish Americans you so fear? Or is it the people who make them celebrities that are the Great American Prudes?

However, you have no trouble tarring the entire nation with a thick brush. And I've seen that Anti-American bigotry many times in Europe. So before you pride yourself on how open Europeans are, ask a few Americans how they get treated there.

Liberal "tolerance" again: we'll "tolerate" anybody who agrees with us. That's all it is.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

I find many Arabs and Jews to look similar. So do many Arabs and Jews.

I can't see that at all. Arabs are pretty distinctive (although there's always some clever clogs to come along and find exceptions).

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Wrong. Go back to page 1. You simply won't find more reputable sources.

Nothing that you are involved with is reputable, you reptile, you taint everything you touch with your evil sliminess and diabolical disposition, you agent of hell. Have a nice fucking day.

OMG. You have a way of posting my thoughts on here a split second before I get to (and do it better). Ick is the word that always comes into my head when I read his posts.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

I agree there is a Jewish look. However Arthur Koerslers' thesis is that never never came from Palestine, but that the diaspora is mainly from the Empire of the Khazar's. Stuck between the Christians in the west and the Muslims to the east, the entire Khazar Empire converted to Judaism from the 8thC to the 10thC.

These guys are not Jews.

It's only his theory. There are so many bizarre conspiracy-type theories surrounding jews. I take no notice of any of them. As far as I've seen his 'theory' only gives the nutters more fuel. I'm not sure what those photos prove. They don't look much like Dustin Hoffman.

No one looks like Dustin Hoffman.

Koerstler was not a crackpot BTW.
The point is that Jews show a massive genetically variation, but nonetheless do not look much like anyone from ancient Israel. Their claim the the land fails on several counts; not less that it is basically a British imperialist invention.

It's annoying when people edit their posts after you have responded. And I said Hoffman has the 'stereotypical jewish' look. Of course they are going to be many and varied when they've been scattered across the planet for millennia, and a huge chunk of them were wiped out in WW11.

[Immanuel Can]

Harbal Appears On the Site:

"I'll save you, m'lady...and afterwards, you will love me!"

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Harbal Appears On the Site:

"I'll save you, m'lady...and afterwards, you will love me!"

I already loves him.

[Dalek Prime]

And we all know how sexually uptight Americans are...

Were you thinking of Bruce Jenner (American), or RuPaul (American), or maybe Laverne Cox (American)? Those are the prudish Americans you so fear? Or is it the people who make them celebrities that are the Great American Prudes?

However, you have no trouble tarring the entire nation with a thick brush. And I've seen that Anti-American bigotry many times in Europe. So before you pride yourself on how open Europeans are, ask a few Americans how they get treated there.

Liberal "tolerance" again: we'll "tolerate" anybody who agrees with us. That's all it is.

I'm North American. And Americans are prudish, though you'd like to believe otherwise. But I am sorry to hear that a few Americans got a bum rush in Europe, if that indeed is true. Perhaps if they didn't call them 'Eurotrash' or 'foreigners' to their faces, in their own nations, they would have had a gentler reception.

And don't bring straw man arguments into this. A few wealthy transgenders and their acceptance says nothing of American society. Don't insult me again, IC.

[Dalek Prime]

I find many Arabs and Jews to look similar. So do many Arabs and Jews.

I can't see that at all. Arabs are pretty distinctive (although there's always some clever clogs to come along and find exceptions).

Watch 'Fauda' if you can. It's not that surprising.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

I find many Arabs and Jews to look similar. So do many Arabs and Jews.

I can't see that at all. Arabs are pretty distinctive (although there's always some clever clogs to come along and find exceptions).

Watch 'Fauda' if you can. It's not that surprising.

I've heard of that. Apparently it's hugely popular with Palestinians.

[Dalek Prime]

Liberal "tolerance" again: we'll "tolerate" anybody who agrees with us. That's all it is.

Let me be very clear about this, IC, and I am talking from a point of self-preservation. I am a transgendered person. Those who do not tolerate my existence, or seek to interfere with it, or make it clear that I am somehow lesser than them for whatever reason? They are my enemy, because they are not my friend.

Just ask the state of Israel on this position. I can promise you, that when my existence or independence is remotely at risk, I will make the Mossad look gentle in nature. That is the nature of self-preservation.

[Dalek Prime]

I can't see that at all. Arabs are pretty distinctive (although there's always some clever clogs to come along and find exceptions).

Watch 'Fauda' if you can. It's not that surprising.

I've heard of that. Apparently it's hugely popular with Palestinians.

Worth a look. I really liked the first season.

[Greta]

There are no sources. He is making it up.

Wrong. Go back to page 1. You simply won't find more reputable sources.

John Hopkins is one American source. And we all know how sexually uptight Americans are in comparison to the rest of the world. So you can put all the weight you want on this. One American study speaks to... one American study.

It doesn't seem like John Hopkins should be used as a sole source as they clearly have an ideological agenda: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brynn-tan ... 10808.html

It's akin to taking information about homosexuality from a gay conversion service or climate change information from Exxon's Rex Tillerson (like a certain newly elected president).

The fact that IC would choose to believe John Hopkins above others suggests personal bias, which is understandable since Christianity has long hated, ostracised, punished and killed queer people. If anything, the fact that IC is not directly hostile towards you (merely trying to undermine your entire existence instead haha), shows how much more civilised we are today than in the past. Nowadays we kill more gently and subtly.