You have not paid any attention, so I am not surprised by your lack of surprise.
You have really said nothing yet. Your questions are meaningless, as you ought to know.
"How could God fail to convey his message?"
It seems you think the question is in error, since you seem to know the mind of God. For you at least Gd has succeeded.
Talk about not paying any attention whatsoever.
I said previously, to Me, there is NO mind of God, YET, here again you still write, "..., since you seem to know the mind of God."
HOW could I possibly seem to know the mind of God when I am the One who says, "There is NO mind of God"?
You have not paid any attention, so I am not surprised by your lack of surprise.
You have really said nothing yet. Your questions are meaningless, as you ought to know.
"How could God fail to convey his message?"
It seems you think the question is in error, since you seem to know the mind of God. For you at least Gd has succeeded.
Talk about not paying any attention whatsoever.
I said previously, to Me, there is NO mind of God, YET, here again you still write, "..., since you seem to know the mind of God."
HOW could I possibly seem to know the mind of God when I am the One who says, "There is NO mind of God"?
So you are saying there is a mindless god. How can a mindless god have a message?
Hobbes' Choice wrote:
You have not paid any attention, so I am not surprised by your lack of surprise.
You have really said nothing yet. Your questions are meaningless, as you ought to know.
"How could God fail to convey his message?"
It seems you think the question is in error, since you seem to know the mind of God. For you at least Gd has succeeded.
Talk about not paying any attention whatsoever.
I said previously, to Me, there is NO mind of God, YET, here again you still write, "..., since you seem to know the mind of God."
HOW could I possibly seem to know the mind of God when I am the One who says, "There is NO mind of God"?
So you are saying there is a mindless god.
No I am not saying that. Your assumptions are misleading you again. You really would be much better of to stop assuming things. Inquisitiveness and clarification are the secrets to becoming wiser.
Hobbes' Choice wrote: How can a mindless god have a message?
You really have not been paying attention at all. I have already explained what IS and what really exists.
ken wrote:
Talk about not paying any attention whatsoever.
I said previously, to Me, there is NO mind of God, YET, here again you still write, "..., since you seem to know the mind of God."
HOW could I possibly seem to know the mind of God when I am the One who says, "There is NO mind of God"?
So you are saying there is a mindless god.
No I am not saying that. Your assumptions are misleading you again. You really would be much better of to stop assuming things. Inquisitiveness and clarification are the secrets to becoming wiser.
Hobbes' Choice wrote: How can a mindless god have a message?
You really have not been paying attention at all. I have already explained what IS and what really exists.
Yes, you are indeed talking, not only bollocks, but complete bollocks. Congratulations for confirming that.
You have a pseudo-Spinozist God. What is amusing is that you do not understand the concept.
ken wrote:
No I am not saying that. Your assumptions are misleading you again. You really would be much better of to stop assuming things. Inquisitiveness and clarification are the secrets to becoming wiser.
Hobbes is not going to agree with you, no matter what you say. Hobbes doesn't know how to agree with anybody. My advice is to save yourself some time and proceed straight to the verbal abuse before he does. Make a preemptive strike.
ken wrote:
No I am not saying that. Your assumptions are misleading you again. You really would be much better of to stop assuming things. Inquisitiveness and clarification are the secrets to becoming wiser.
Hobbes is not going to agree with you, no matter what you say. Hobbes doesn't know how to agree with anybody.
Wanker! I was being nice to you in my last post. Now you have gone and fucked it up like the clown you are.
I might even go back and delete my agreement and praise of your comments on ImmanualKunt.
Hobbes' Choice wrote:
Wanker! I was being nice to you in my last post. Now you have gone and fucked it up like the clown you are.
I might even go back and delete my agreement and praise of your comments on ImmanualKunt.
No, Hobbes, please don't delete it, I''ve invited all my friends round to look at it, that's how much it means to me. If it's not there when they get here they'll both be very disappointed. How ironic is it that I should write this on the one day you decide to agree with me. Come on, Hobbes, try and see the funny side of it, life doesn't have to be so serious.
nature dont divine and it dont moralize. If god were omnipotent he would be here on earth with his angels governing.
Instead we have a brute wild existence.
God would make godsself known prominently beyond a shadow of a doubt dont you think? Instead the silence of air.
osgart wrote:nature dont divine and it dont moralize. If god were omnipotent he would be here on earth with his angels governing.
Instead we have a brute wild existence.
God would make godsself known prominently beyond a shadow of a doubt dont you think? Instead the silence of air.
So you are obviously in the belief that if there is a God - it would be ALL good. This is not your fault - i fell victim to what is preached by the establishment that supposedly represents God, and thats all they preach - the seem to forget the kunt of the old testament.
To me, if God is divine - it basically created the conditions to permit life, and intelligent life and left it to its own devices.
i believe that is called a deist belief in God. He ditched us.
Thomas jefferson was deist.
Another cruel god great.
I firmly believe we are created by a mysterious great intellect. Far from divine though.
A true God wouldnt spend one second letting the world live this way. Rather consciousness is the essence of existence and has limited effect on our universe; limited but powerful.
I dont believe life can arise in a purely physical sense.
God is a delusion.
osgart wrote:i believe that is called a deist belief in God. He ditched us.
Thomas jefferson was deist.
Another cruel god great.
I firmly believe we are created by a mysterious great intellect. Far from divine though.
A true God wouldnt spend one second letting the world live this way. Rather consciousness is the essence of existence and has limited effect on our universe; limited but powerful.
I dont believe life can arise in a purely physical sense.
God is a delusion.
God is a delusion to those that don't know it exists. Its apparent that a true God does allow the world to live the way it does, but from my knowledge of its existence most of life's suffering is likely to be far from the truth. A biologist can only argue against the Judaic\Christian buy bull God - in their belief of creationism. Physicists will, i believe discover that God exists..since it does..and to this end i am only interested in their discoveries.
bahman wrote:
We believe that God is omniscient and omnipotent. This means that there should be one true religion. There are about 4000 religions. How God could fail to convey his message?
I think that God’s implicit message to the world is quite clear:
Be fruitful and multiply and you will understand the reason for it all after you die.
Until then, religions are just the pacifying teats for the worldlings to suckle on.
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i know all the nice sentiments about their being a God that is divine. And people make beautiful of it. The evidence says their is no such thing. There may be a living force but it struggles mightily.
A person is heart mind and will. You create yourself from that. If you want Divine Truth its attainable. Though the nature of being human is prone with error and fault and tragic circumstance and plight. A man or a woman can rise above their nature and all its faults.
The heart is its highest love. If a person needs repentance it is there. The truly wicked never change for they have loved evil way too much.
The heart makes its choices and people become who they are.
There is also many people whom live day to day not having heart in anything whatsoever. All they are is intellect. I think thats what makes life dangerous.
Yet their is an ideal truth of life. Those whom love that ideal are never worn out and are full of a benevolent care for others.
They have achieved nirvana. They have achieved divinity. Whereas they have the capacity to deal with this tough tragic existence. They can forgive the repentant and care deeply for what is innocent. They have inner joy and peace within. It is an achievement. They have come to know what they truly love. This is the Divine Truth; the purpose of life. It has its knowledge to learn. I seek it daily and nightly in all i do.
Well, he could say it himself for a start, instead of going through others. Then he could say it less cryptically. Then he could say it without threatening, or being a bully. Then he could apologize for fucking things up, and not communicating properly. You don't treat loved ones like that.
