A Challenge to Richard Dawkins and the Atheists

[uwot]

Mr Can and thedoc are derailing this thread. Regardless of who organises charities, by their own admission, a christians behaviour is determined by whether they want daddy to give them sweeties, or they want to avoid daddy beating them with a stick. Both of them have threatened 'Wait until daddy gets home', either in terms of the day of judgement or personal death. This is how stupid parents try to coerce children they cannot control. Mr Can and thedoc need to grow up.

[Harbal]

Mr Can and thedoc need to grow up.

But then they wouldn't be so much fun to play with.

[uwot]

Mr Can and thedoc need to grow up.

But then they wouldn't be so much fun to play with.

True, but don't worry; it won't happen.

[thedoc]

Well I don't think either of you have to worry about anyone having any level of 'hots' for you.

That is a relief, and one less thing I would need to worry about.

[Immanuel Can]

Well I don't think either of you have to worry about anyone having any level of 'hots' for you.

That is a relief, and one less thing I would need to worry about.

Y'know, it's interesting...

I notice that the Atheist set on this strand is absolutely DESPERATE to make the main question change to something personal. They don't want to discuss Atheism (or "atheism") at any cost. They'd rather haggle about how to spell things, or who can come up with the more petty epithets, or slander their opposition, or even wish the poor to starve in the streets...

ANYTHING except have to address the key question: has Atheism even got one thing to commend itself as a position? (That is, other than insulting every other belief, a strategy that, in addition to being irrelevant, is hopelessly derivative of whatever value may actually lie in those more substantial ideologies).

Can Atheism find any basis for recommending itself in its own right? That's what they can't seem to tackle.

P.S. -- Wait for it: we're going to get another "shiny, irrelevant object" waved in front of us immediately.

[thedoc]

Nice dodge, Again what do I believe according to you?

That the Bible is the word of god and that Jesus is the Son of the OT god. So on and so forth…..

I was asking what you think that I am supposed to believe.

What you’re supposed to believe is a different question entirely the answer to which is not to be presumed by me. That’s what you’re own intelligence is for. Why try to bait someone else with a question that can’t be answered, since I’m not you?

You have been implying what my beliefs are, and I was just trying to find out what you thought I believed. So far you have it right, but the question is how do you interpret what is written? Which so far you have dodged that question. I'll give you a hint, I'm not a Creationist.

[thedoc]

I've just noticed Greta has turned up and I need to go and ask if she fancies swapping a few dirty PMs.

Go for it, it will give you something productive to do.

[Arising_uk]

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Can Atheism find any basis for recommending itself in its own right? ...

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Well if you like this sort of thing, you get 'free-will' for free.

[Harbal]

Y'know, it's interesting...

I notice that the Atheist set on this strand is absolutely DESPERATE to make the main question change to something personal. They don't want to discuss Atheism (or "atheism") at any cost.

So, in order to avoid talking about atheism, people are deliberately seeking out a thread on that very subject so they can talk about something else instead. Who knows, I suppose stranger things have happened.

They'd rather haggle about how to spell things, or who can come up with the more petty epithets, or slander their opposition, or even wish the poor to starve in the streets...

And eating babies and skinning kittens alive....

Can Atheism find any basis for recommending itself in its own right? That's what they can't seem to tackle.

I can't speak for anyone else but I certainly don't have the same fascination with atheism that you do, in fact, I find it a pretty boring subject. The only reason I'm bothering with this thread is because it's so much fun to keep poking you with a stick and watching your frantic reaction, thinly disguised under a transparent veil of (apparent) calmness with a laughing yellow face on top, like a cherry on a cake, to try to reinforce the illusion.

I've just noticed Greta has turned up and I need to go and ask if she fancies swapping a few dirty PMs.

Go for it, it will give you something productive to do.

I've had second thoughts, I don't want to jeopardise a valued friendship.

[Immanuel Can]

...I've had second thoughts, I don't want to jeopardise a valued friendship.

Aaaaand...there it is. A simply lovely collection of shiny objects.

But no attempt whatsoever to answer the question.

That was entirely expected.

[henry quirk]

Mannie,

Speakin' only for myself, here...


has Atheism even got one thing to commend itself as a position?

Nope...it's just a placeholder I apply to a conclusion which comes at the end of an assessment.

The assessment is on-going, the conclusion is tentative.


Can Atheism find any basis for recommending itself in its own right?

Nope...I wouldn't recommend it to any one, for any reason.

Why?

Cuz folks will arrive at what they arrive at without me poking, prodding, cajoling, or appealing.

Some will go theist, some will go atheist...never known a body to go either way without a natural skew in place to begin with.

Now, why don't you buncha doofi leave each other be for a while...you're all givin' theists/atheists a bad rep.

[Lacewing]

I notice that the Atheist set...

Of course you do. It's all you've shown that you're interested in seeing. You fabricate a monster that you can lash out at and see yourself as better than. Whoopee! It's absurd and childish and extraordinarily ignorant. Your obsession with it is because your ego gets such a payoff, and you've not yet discovered how to rise beyond that. So you keep spinning in your beloved circle, acting proud of yourself for doing so. What you claim as God is simply you.

[Harbal]

Now, why don't you buncha doofi leave each other be for a while...you're all givin' theists/atheists a bad rep.

You're absolutely right, quirky, this is serving no purpose whatsoever, all it is is a pointless name calling exercise.

Just as a point of interest, henry, have you noticed that the biggest knob head participating in this shameful thread just happens to be one of those theist Johnnies? I won't mention any names cos he'll only start bleating on about shiny things.

[thedoc]

I've just noticed Greta has turned up and I need to go and ask if she fancies swapping a few dirty PMs.

Go for it, it will give you something productive to do.

I've had second thoughts, I don't want to jeopardise a valued friendship.

Nice evasion, there would have to be a valued friendship there to begin with, but I will let that up to your judgment.

[Harbal]

Nice evasion,

I'm not evading, I'm avoiding

there would have to be a valued friendship there to begin with,

I thought there was, have you heard something that I haven't?