A Challenge to Richard Dawkins and the Atheists

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Excuse me, but who has been on here ranting about 'atheists' for weeks?

[TSBU]

I don't know, I just read the last post (wich wasn't yours) and started searching a funny picture (and when I postd...). Militant atheists are for me similar to militant religionists: stupid arrogant constant noise. I mean... this is the same, but I post pictures

[vegetariantaxidermy]

I don't know, I just read the last post (wich wasn't yours) and started searching a funny picture (and when I postd...). Militant atheists are for me similar to militant religionists: stupid arrogant constant noise. I mean... this is the same, but I post pictures

'Militant atheist'. What the fuck does that mean? Anyone who describes themselves in that way is just a wanker, but NOT by default a dangerous mass murderer.
And perhaps you should at least try to follow a thread before inserting moronic 'funnies'.

[Harbal]

They were racial supremacists, followers of Darwinian genetics,

Ah yes, Darwin, that evil genius who devised natural selection so it could be manipulated by despotic political regimes in order to achieve their own twisted ends. People used to be so kind and nice to each other before God created Darwin.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

You tell me. As a kristian you would have a much better idea than I would.

So you don't know? You're just throwing around accusations of genocide? How much do you hate Christians, and how much do you despise the truth?

But here's some truth for you. The Jews of the Holocaust were not killed for their religion. The survivors themselves say so. They point out that though they tried, there was absolutely nothing they could do to make the Nazis have mercy on them. Converting to anything didn't save them or abate the Nazi hatred. Secular Jews were killed every bit as quickly as the Hassidim were. Women or men, educated, talented, wise or foolish, religious or atheist, the Nazis hated all of them and killed all of them with equal relish.

Why? Because their hatred was based on race, not religion. They didn't care if a Jewish person was religious or not. It didn't matter to them. Of course they always, like all sides, said "God" was on their side. In a war, the factions always do that. But the truth is manifest from both what they said and what their victims said.

They were racial supremacists, followers of Darwinian genetics, Heideggerian philosophy, socialism and Arian mythology.

Now, tell me YOUR theory. I reeeeally want to hear this.

If you knew anything at all about science you would know that they didn't follow evolutionary fact at all. Quite the opposite. The nazis were science illiterates (another thing you have in common with them).

[thedoc]

The nazis were science illiterates.

Science illiterates, and I thought that science created the weapons that were used to fight a war, and the Nazi's had some of the best. So I guess it doesn't take good science to create a good weapon.

[Dubious]

People used to be so kind and nice to each other before God created Darwin.

Indeed! The whole town received invitations to Auto-da-fé barbecues hosted by theists and their henchmen. Not hard to imagine the IC type being a full member of the inquisitorial elite who proudly protect the innocent from heretics, witches and atheists.

[thedoc]

Let's see what we've figured out so far:

1. Atheism, whether with a big "A" or a small "a-" is the belief there is no God.

It's actually a case of not even giving it any thought, with a lot of people. Some of us are far too busy thinking about how we can make this world a better place for our fellow man.

It appears that you are failing on that point.

[thedoc]

3. Atheism allows people to be good if they already want to; but it also allows them to be totally evil if they want to. There is no evil it forbids, or upon which it even frowns. There is no good it favours, and no virtue it teaches us to reward. It has no position on moral values at all...except that no ultimate grounds for them exist.

Reply withheld on grounds of not wanting to lend dignity to ridiculous statement by providing response.

In other words you just can't think of a snappy comeback, I'm really disappointed with you.

[Dubious]

3. Atheism allows people to be good if they already want to; but it also allows them to be totally evil if they want to. There is no evil it forbids, or upon which it even frowns. There is no good it favours, and no virtue it teaches us to reward. It has no position on moral values at all...except that no ultimate grounds for them exist.

Reply withheld on grounds of not wanting to lend dignity to ridiculous statement by providing response.

In other words you just can't think of a snappy comeback, I'm really disappointed with you.

Anyone who thinks IC's tour de force of absurdity is reasonable, truthful or even remotely realistic would be well served by a lobotomy on both sides. Are there any reasonable or intelligent theists left or is your whole tribe now infected by dementia? Ironically it's the function of the theist to use God to make themselves stupid...an irony most of the Western World is aware of and in the process of culling.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

The nazis were science illiterates.

Science illiterates, and I thought that science created the weapons that were used to fight a war, and the Nazi's had some of the best. So I guess it doesn't take good science to create a good weapon.

I didn't say they had no technology, idiot, it was a modern country. The nazis themselves were morons. You must see that. They were right into the occult, they knew nothing about how natural selection works, and Himmler went on a wild goose chase for the 'holy grail' ffs. 'Nuf said' (to quote Henry Quirk). This demonstrates perfectly how important it is to have a well-educated public that understands things like natural selection, and questions doctrines that don't hold up to even the most superficial scrutiny.

[Arising_uk]

It appears that you are failing on that point.

But 'we're' not are we, as by most measures the world is a better place not that end-of-timers and their ilk would wish for or admit this.

[Immanuel Can]

YOU are the one who keeps on with your hateful rants that athiests are the root of all evil.

That's really funny. What would be the point of being "hateful" to something so irrational, so vain and ultimately, so tame? There's nothing to hate! Atheism's all so futile. If you're right, you'll never know...and if I'm right, we'll both know. What have I got to lose?

Anyway, you're an Atheist, remember?

You don't believe in evil.You also don't believe that being "hateful" can be "wrong." These words have no objective truthfulness in your worldview.

So why are you trying to reclaim these concepts now?

Because you know you're blowing smoke, that's why.

[Immanuel Can]

If you knew anything at all about science you would know that they didn't follow evolutionary fact at all. Quite the opposite. The nazis were science illiterates (another thing you have in common with them).

Incorrect. Once again, lack of erudition has betrayed you.

Go look up "eugenics." You'll learn wondrous truths.

[Immanuel Can]

The real irony is...

...you never actually answered my question.

You ran.