Do you think we have all senses

[FlashDangerpants]

You cannot 'sense' something which does not exist. The future is not made yet, it is only conceptual as we live in a constant present.

Whether you call it "sense" or an aggregation of unconscious processing, one certainly can anticipate the future and we do it routinely. The example I gave cannot be in dispute - you see someone in a state of imbalance and there is a point where you know a fall is certain, but it's not consciously deduced. Further, one might unconsciously recognise signs that lead to that state of imbalance. The fact that the conscious mind immediately "takes ownership" of the anticipation does not take away from the initial unconsciously "sensed" impressions.

That's an expectation based on past experience not a sense. If a circus performer of sufficient agility pretends he is about to fall in such a way, you will get that same anticipation, even though it predicts nothing as the acrobat somehow rights himself.

[Lacewing]

Does lack of sight indicate truth?

why should it. What kind of a question is that here? /... You cannot 'sense' something which does not exist.

I was trying (while finding it difficult to choose the right words) to express that the limitations of ones sight should not convince them that they are seeing all there is to see. Ones inability to sense is not an indicator of what does not exist.

You seem focused on "the future isn't made yet". There are two issues about this that occur to me. First, how do you know that a linear timeline is all that is functioning here? Second, how do you know how big "the moment" is? There may be all kinds of things INCLUDED in "the moment", and a person's view of that may be based on the width of the window they're looking out of.

(I'm guessing that smoke is coming out of your ears about now. )

[Hobbes' Choice]

Does lack of sight indicate truth?

why should it. What kind of a question is that here? /... You cannot 'sense' something which does not exist.

I was trying (while finding it difficult to choose the right words) to express that the limitations of ones sight should not convince them that they are seeing all there is to see. Ones inability to sense is not an indicator of what does not exist.

You seem focused on "the future isn't made yet". There are two issues about this that occur to me. First, how do you know that a linear timeline is all that is functioning here? Second, how do you know how big "the moment" is? There may be all kinds of things INCLUDED in "the moment", and a person's view of that may be based on the width of the window they're looking out of.

(I'm guessing that smoke is coming out of your ears about now. )

I have no doubt that the senses we have limit us to a range of input which more or less approximate the world and indeed the question of the thread assumes that there may be man ythings before us that we have no sensible means to appreciate, but predicting the future by whatever means, is still outside the question at hand.
There is no doubt that science has provided us a glimpse into those world beyond our immediate perception; radar, x-rays, microscopy (light and electron), telescopy (radio, light), MRI, CT scanning, the list goes on.
As for your question about 'timeline', you might as well ask about the tears of fairies, or the wings of angels, it does not even warrant consideration in a meaningful way.

[Harbal]

there may be man things before us that we have no sensible means to appreciate,

What sort of "man" things are you talking about?

you might as well ask about the tears of fairies,

Are you saying you don't believe that fairies cry?

[Philosophy Explorer]

there may be man things before us that we have no sensible means to appreciate,

What sort of "man" things are you talking about?

you might as well ask about the tears of fairies,

Are you saying you don't believe that fairies cry?

PhilX

[Kristofer]

Good talk guys,i have enough information now to embark on a journey to finding what other senses humans are able to develop.

[Greta]

You cannot 'sense' something which does not exist. The future is not made yet, it is only conceptual as we live in a constant present.

Whether you call it "sense" or an aggregation of unconscious processing, one certainly can anticipate the future and we do it routinely. The example I gave cannot be in dispute - you see someone in a state of imbalance and there is a point where you know a fall is certain, but it's not consciously deduced. Further, one might unconsciously recognise signs that lead to that state of imbalance. The fact that the conscious mind immediately "takes ownership" of the anticipation does not take away from the initial unconsciously "sensed" impressions.

That's an expectation based on past experience not a sense. If a circus performer of sufficient agility pretends he is about to fall in such a way, you will get that same anticipation, even though it predicts nothing as the acrobat somehow rights himself.

What is the difference between an unconscious perception and a sense?

[Hobbes' Choice]

Whether you call it "sense" or an aggregation of unconscious processing, one certainly can anticipate the future and we do it routinely. The example I gave cannot be in dispute - you see someone in a state of imbalance and there is a point where you know a fall is certain, but it's not consciously deduced. Further, one might unconsciously recognise signs that lead to that state of imbalance. The fact that the conscious mind immediately "takes ownership" of the anticipation does not take away from the initial unconsciously "sensed" impressions.

That's an expectation based on past experience not a sense. If a circus performer of sufficient agility pretends he is about to fall in such a way, you will get that same anticipation, even though it predicts nothing as the acrobat somehow rights himself.

What is the difference between an unconscious perception and a sense?

What is unconscious perception?

[Greta]

That's an expectation based on past experience not a sense. If a circus performer of sufficient agility pretends he is about to fall in such a way, you will get that same anticipation, even though it predicts nothing as the acrobat somehow rights himself.

What is the difference between an unconscious perception and a sense?

What is unconscious perception?

The earlier example given is maybe as clear as any I can think of ATM:

If you see someone toppling over and there is a moment where you instinctively know there are definitely going to hit the deck. It's not analytically processed; everything happens too quickly.

[Dubious]

there may be man things before us that we have no sensible means to appreciate,

What sort of "man" things are you talking about?

you might as well ask about the tears of fairies,

Are you saying you don't believe that fairies cry?

...especially if they can't find another one!

[Hobbes' Choice]

...especially if they can't find another one!

Yes it must be especially hard for them as we all know that fairies don't exist. They must be crying the whole time±!

[Harbal]

we all know that fairies don't exist.

Okay, Mr. know it all Hobbes, So who is making the tiny footprints I keep finding at the bottom of my garden?

[Philosophy Explorer]

we all know that fairies don't exist.

Okay, Mr. know it all Hobbes, So who is making the tiny footprints I keep finding at the bottom of my garden?

Oooh, oooh, oooh I know the answer Harbal. It's the rabbit from Alice in Wonderland.

PhilX

[Harbal]

It's the rabbit from Alice in Wonderland.

PhilX

They're far too small for rabbit prints and they're the wrong shape. No, there are only two possibilities: Either they are fairy prints or the pixies put them there to mislead me.

[Philosophy Explorer]

It's the rabbit from Alice in Wonderland.

PhilX

They're far too small for rabbit prints and they're the wrong shape. No, there are only two possibilities: Either they are fairy prints or the pixies put them there to mislead me.

Wow! Even Mr. Know-It-All didn't know that one.

PhilX