What is the English way?

[Melchior]

https://youtu.be/WNzlNpJ6tb8

[Harbal]

You don't have the attention span for this Forum.

There's no need to stamp your foot just because I can't be bothered to watch your silly youtube videos.

[Arising_uk]

I heard most of all of them and most of what I heard was hog wash.

Really!?

Why?

And which bits didn't you think were hogwash?

[Harbal]

And which bits didn't you think were hogwash?

The bits I missed.

[Arising_uk]

https://youtu.be/WNzlNpJ6tb8

Don't see eye-eye with you often Melchior but thanks for this as it was a joy to watch someone practicing their art and how to deal with mistakes.

[Arising_uk]

The bits I missed.

So what was the hogwash?

[mickthinks]

What the hell's wrong with prejudice? We all practice prejudice every day.

Prejudice's wrongs range from the defective to the injurious, depending on the circumstances.

[mickthinks]

I heard most of all of them and most of what I heard was hog wash.

And which bits didn't you think were hogwash?

The bits I missed.

Er .. so then all of what you heard would have been hogwash, surely? So why did you say "most of what I heard was hogwash?".

I smell bullshit, friend Harbal.

[Harbal]

So what was the hogwash?

For a start, I found the man intolerably patronising, which, I admit, did not dispose me sympathetically towards him. He obviously had his own agenda and I think the fact that he was both black and gay very much determined his point of view. That's fair enough but I am neither black nor gay so my point of view is not the same as his. His assertion that race does not exist will not convince anybody who has more sense than people like Hobbes and maybe you. He would have us believe that the difference between what most of us would call the different races is purely superficial, which is something I find highly implausible.

[Harbal]

I smell bullshit, friend Harbal.

Then go take a shower because it sounds like you've had an accident.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

I'm puzzled, then, why you are contributing to a thread called "What is the English way"? I suggest that this primitve sort of tribalism is not only mythical, but divisive and harmful to humanity's future.
Monty Python is best characterised as "British" or "English" in that with each sketch it made fun of and ridiculed the very things that are considered to be the "British way of life", but take away the bowler hat, and the handlebar moustache of the Brigadier, and you have a sketch that could just as well have been a critique of any upper/middle class society on western europe.

So you think there is no such thing as cultural identity. What an odd, homogenous bubble you live in. In your world no one would ever be able to say, 'The English have a good sense of humour', or 'Americans are very literal', or 'Chinese are hard workers', or 'Germans are arrogant' etc. etc

prejudice, prejudice, prejudice.

PC PC PC hyposcisy hypocrisy hypocrisy. 'Progressives' and hypocrisy. Inseparable bedmates.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

So what was the hogwash?

For a start, I found the man intolerably patronising, which, I admit, did not dispose me sympathetically towards him. He obviously had his own agenda and I think the fact that he was both black and gay very much determined his point of view. That's fair enough but I am neither black nor gay so my point of view is not the same as his. His assertion that race does not exist will not convince anybody who has more sense than people like Hobbes and maybe you. He would have us believe that the difference between what most of us would call the different races is purely superficial, which is something I find highly implausible.

But Sam Harris isn't black or gay. Which video are you referring to?

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Cherry-picking is so dishonest.

[Harbal]

But Sam Harris isn't black or gay. Which video are you referring to?

It was the Reith Lectures on Radio 4, Hobbes posted a link.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

But Sam Harris isn't black or gay. Which video are you referring to?

It was the Reith Lectures on Radio 4, Hobbes posted a link.

Oh right. I 'wikid' him instead. Much quicker.