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Gustav Bjornstrand
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Prothero wrote:Hopefully our institutions and our system of divided government, checks and balances is strong enough to withstand Trumps possible excesses. One can hope for the best: a Republican house, Senate and President, something might actually get done: tax reform, less regulation, smaller federal government more local decision making and control, investment in infrastructure, putting Medicare and Social Security on a sound financial basis for the future. Under Hilary all we were going to get was more gridlock and obstruction. The Republicans are in charge let us wait and see if they can actually govern and if not, we have a chance to vote them out again in two years and a different President in four years. In Truth if all eligible voters had in fact registered and voted there would likely to have been a different result. Voting matters and real long term change only comes through the political process as messy, frustrating and slow as it may be.
Good analysis overall. The Democratic Party strategy has been and is to bring in enough *new* Americans to sufficiently dilute the demographic so that there is no longer a substantial white block to worry about. This extends from Sixties politics and the Immigration Reform of 1965. That is one reason they would wish to legalize millions of illegal immigrants. One has to be aware of the basic and underlying struggle here, no matter what side one is on.

Without a doubt those 'checks and balances' will do a great deal to inhibit excesses. The US is a vastly powerful country with entrenched interest of many different sorts. And they have protections at many different levels. It is not impossible that Trump engineer some sort of a restructuring. In any case he had best heed the class that brought him to power. The more that they politicize, the more the inherent social conflicts will increase. The social problems in the US, and the disempowerment of the white majority, and their apparent desire to assert themselves against aspects of the multiculturalism project, will only become more stark. Obama's presidency represents 8 years of left-activism. One would imagine this represents the reverse-trend. There is conflict inherent at all levels.

I am really pleased to know that our Lefty-Progressives have come to terms with things and will be dancing there way through it all. It will be a knife-dance though. The Left-Progressive-Marxist faction will not simply surrender the field, that must be understood.

'Fasten your seat belts boys and girls, we're in for a bumpy ride'.

The NYTs has an interesting article describing its 'journalistic shame'. This seems a pretty important moment for journalistic America. If what they say is true they are going to have to retool and come up with a very different reporting paradigm.

A WSJ article which, to my astonishment, mentions Richard Spencer, one of the main advocates of New Right positions. This is a very interesting turn of events insofar as Spencer is intellectually and ideologically informed by the European New Right. If this new interpretation of Conservatism begins to gain foothold, then it is possible that a wide-ranging social conservatism with political and economic implications may take greater shape in America. This is certainly significant. Because the Republican establishment are generally regarded as 'Cucks' by the New American Right.

But it only brings into sharper focus that there is a latent and I think also explosive political and social conflict within the landscape of America right now. The Left-Progressive camp may sulk for a week or two but already they are revving up the rhetorical engines. Amy Goodman of Democracy Now.
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This site is so weird. Even our resident nazi is an a pretentious cockwomble.
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Gustav Bjornstrand wrote:...
I am really pleased to know that our Lefty-Progressives have come to terms with things and will be dancing there way through it all. It will be a knife-dance though. The Left-Progressive-Marxist faction will not simply surrender the field, that must be understood.

'Fasten your seat belts boys and girls, we're in for a bumpy ride'.
bringing a knife to a gunfight is smart

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Gustav Bjornstrand wrote:But it only brings into sharper focus that there is a latent and I think also explosive political and social conflict within the landscape of America right now. The Left-Progressive camp may sulk for a week or two but already they are revving up the rhetorical engines. Amy Goodman of Democracy Now.
For the second link my attention only held to the end of the first question.

Maddow is strangely fascinating, though. Few can say so little with so many words as the smirking Maddow.

Trump causes suffering. Just look.
They came for a party and found a-wake, but don’t underestimate denial's attraction for conditioning.
This video is simply evidence of: Ignorance, attachment, delusion … suffering.

Educational only. Sometimes we must look at the hard stuff, to understand.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGfREDR0S1E

Considering the depth of the angst, a commemorative medallion or perhaps a souvenir magazine cover would lighten, likely even cure the mood until it returns with the next loss. There's a bargain sale.

From the last link: “Like everybody else, we got it wrong,” Tony Romando, chief executive of Topix Media, told The New York Post.

Negatory, Tony. But wouldn’t you like to make that true with your words. If you're going to be rational, in this situation only the losers got it wrong. If that’s all you’ve got, don’t send the resume that you’ll be updating to the Trump organization. Trump knows that execution is not rehearsal.

Baseball rule: Focus on the execution, not the outcome.
That keeps one in the moment.
Like the Cubbies.
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Really shows you the state of mind of american people today, when they pick this guy for the president.
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Arising_uk wrote:
thedoc wrote:What Trump should do now,

Let Bill and Hillary go to trial and be convicted, ...
Of what? And surely they are innocent until convicted or has that gone out the window in America as well.
Innocent until proven guilty is a legal term that applies in a court room, outside the court room most people believe what they want to.
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thedoc wrote:
Arising_uk wrote:
thedoc wrote:What Trump should do now,

Let Bill and Hillary go to trial and be convicted, ...
Of what? And surely they are innocent until convicted or has that gone out the window in America as well.
Innocent until proven guilty is a legal term that applies in a court room, outside the court room most people believe what they want to.
Nixon was pardoned, and he was never charged with a crime.

Do some research. The FBI listed some of her recent crimes. The DOJ, under Obama's control, declined to charge her and prosecute. Now that she is no longer a political liability and any remnants of the Party integrity has been eviscerated by her and her former boss, she's fair game. She's a sitting duck hoping for the mercy of the lame duck.

Come to think of it, was Hitler ever charged with a crime?
Was Hitler innocent because he was not proven guilty in a court room?
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I hope you are willing to take responsibility for your vote this time, Doc.

If trump screws up...will you admit you were wrong to vote for him or will you cry out that the reason things went wrong is because he was too liberal...like Republicans did when Bush screwed up?
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artisticsolution wrote:
I hope you are willing to take responsibility for your vote this time, Doc.

If trump screws up...will you admit you were wrong to vote for him or will you cry out that the reason things went wrong is because he was too liberal...like Republicans did when Bush screwed up?
Just do it the Democrat way.
Blame everyone else if caught, then claim meaningless, "full responsibility."

In other words, the weasel way.

It would take an idiot to claim responsibility for another's future actions, no matter who the person is.
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Walker wrote: ... Do some research.....

Come to think of it, was Hitler ever charged with a crime?
He wrote Mein Kampf in prison.
Perhaps you should do some research.
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FlashDangerpants wrote:
Walker wrote: ... Do some research.....

Come to think of it, was Hitler ever charged with a crime?
He wrote Mein Kampf in prison.
Perhaps you should do some research.
I asked the question.
You assumed it was rhetorical.

I'm too lazy to research an idiotic comment.
What was the crime?
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Google it you stupid fat lazy American wanker.
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FlashDangerpants wrote:Google it you stupid fat lazy American wanker.
:lol: Fuck you.

I did check, you pathetic moron who can't rub two thoughts together.

And what do you know.

Hitler was convicted of treason.

Errily similar to Clinton.

Doc’s right. Convict her first and toss her ass in the hoosegow. Make that arse, asshole.

:wink:
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Arising_uk wrote:. Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose or Mutantur Quanto magis idem if you don't like the French.
I don't like either.
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Interesting. I couldn’t find that Hitler was charged with the crime of killing millions of people.

He was never charged with that crime.

Maybe my research is deficient.

Was Hitler innocent of that crime because he wasn’t charged with that crime, FlashDanger pants?

Or was he guilty because most people believe what they want to believe, outside the courtroom.
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