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TSBU wrote:Call this thread something similar to "socratic method"
That's a bit pretentious.
No it isn't, I'm not saying "I know all the answers", I'm saying that questions and answers are the best way to aproach a subject. By the way, IRL I'm a teacher, and I learn sometimes from my students.
Hmm. Do you teach them philosophy?
This thread is a game, it might even be fun for people who enjoy that sort of creepypasta stuff. But you are misselling it quite badly to claim it is philosophical in nature. There are no interesting ethical questions about what it is polite to say to a serial killer on the internet.
TSBU wrote:-Haha, harmonious, 2rehabilitation" do we live in different worlds? what a joke. Well, you think that "I should kill myself",good to know it, it's a shame I don't think the same way, don't you think? You don't know who am I killing, you know nothing about me, you are not even asking to me, but you say that I should kill myself, and you call me a rat, humm, your "harmonius path" seem to work with psichologyc attacks. I just prefer to kill with my hands.
Okay, so you're making up shit about what the killer thinks and says... which you supposedly don't know. There are some killers who don't want to do what they're doing. There are some killers who might start off asking for help... or ask to be heard. Your scenario did not present that... your killer is in full-blown destructive game-playing mode... so why would you even expect someone to want to talk to the killer? f*** them! Get the hell off the planet!
I answered the question you posed: "I want you to say why should I stop killing people". I answered because it's the "honorable thing to do. It is not clever to attack other unsuspecting people... and then scurry around like a rat to avoid detection." So I'm appealing to the killer's integrity at any level of their being. If they don't have such a thing, there's really no hope.
You seem intent on dodging out of the way of every response you get here. So this is YOUR fucked up stupid game, and not really a clever or honest discussion at all.
TSBU wrote:-Haha, harmonious, 2rehabilitation" do we live in different worlds? what a joke. Well, you think that "I should kill myself",good to know it, it's a shame I don't think the same way, don't you think? You don't know who am I killing, you know nothing about me, you are not even asking to me, but you say that I should kill myself, and you call me a rat, humm, your "harmonius path" seem to work with psichologyc attacks. I just prefer to kill with my hands.
Okay, so you're making up shit about what the killer thinks and says... which you supposedly don't know. There are some killers who don't want to do what they're doing. There are some killers who might start off asking for help... or ask to be heard. Your scenario did not present that... your killer is in full-blown destructive game-playing mode... so why would you even expect someone to want to talk to the killer? f*** them! Get the hell off the planet!
I answered the question you posed: "I want you to say why should I stop killing people". I answered because it's the "honorable thing to do. It is not clever to attack other unsuspecting people... and then scurry around like a rat to avoid detection." So I'm appealing to the killer's integrity at any level of their being. If they don't have such a thing, there's really no hope.
You seem intent on dodging out of the way of every response you get here. So this is YOUR fucked up stupid game, and not really a clever or honest discussion at all.
Ehm... I said at the begining, I play the murderer role. I don't care about other murderers, as I said, this post is about you, about what would you do in this situation. And I don't "expect" anyone to do anything (Of course, I would like to see some answers, but that doesn't mean that I'm waiting for them), I just want to see what would they do. Of course, my first question to the killer would have been "why are you doing that?". Well, I asume that, after him giving you that answer, You'd stop talking to him. Thanks for playing
FlashDangerpants wrote:
TSBU wrote:
FlashDangerpants wrote:
That's a bit pretentious.
No it isn't, I'm not saying "I know all the answers", I'm saying that questions and answers are the best way to aproach a subject. By the way, IRL I'm a teacher, and I learn sometimes from my students.
Hmm. Do you teach them philosophy?
This thread is a game, it might even be fun for people who enjoy that sort of creepypasta stuff. But you are misselling it quite badly to claim it is philosophical in nature. There are no interesting ethical questions about what it is polite to say to a serial killer on the internet.
Nope, well, when you deal with young people you always teach some philosophy, but not. Well, You can't find it interesting, it's ok, go to other posts then... It's easy, internet is big enough. Surely That birth certificate is more interesting.
TSBU wrote:
Hahaha, I like creepy things XD. Well, posting photos is only to demonstrate that he is the murderer (and I'm saying that I'm my post, cause if I don't say that, people start by asking "how do we know that he is a real killer?"). No, the question is not "'If you commit murder and can't be caught, was that murder wrong?', not at all... but i find curious that your first aproach is that... I would say where I want this to go, but that would be wrong for the experiment and the game, I want people to get to that question-conclusion alone, I want to see where do their arguments go with this situation.
Well, if Bill can put nosense, me too. But I don't see this like "nosense".
Then I can't find any point to it. Perhaps you could try posting in one sentence (two at the most) where the ethical dilemma is?
TSBU wrote:
Hahaha, I like creepy things XD. Well, posting photos is only to demonstrate that he is the murderer (and I'm saying that I'm my post, cause if I don't say that, people start by asking "how do we know that he is a real killer?"). No, the question is not "'If you commit murder and can't be caught, was that murder wrong?', not at all... but i find curious that your first aproach is that... I would say where I want this to go, but that would be wrong for the experiment and the game, I want people to get to that question-conclusion alone, I want to see where do their arguments go with this situation.
Well, if Bill can put nosense, me too. But I don't see this like "nosense".
Then I can't find any point to it. Perhaps you could try posting in one sentence (two at the most) where the ethical dilemma is?
I can write an extense pm for anyone who is really curious about that and send it when this is post is death. For now, and here, I prefer the hypo.
TSBU wrote:
Hahaha, I like creepy things XD. Well, posting photos is only to demonstrate that he is the murderer (and I'm saying that I'm my post, cause if I don't say that, people start by asking "how do we know that he is a real killer?"). No, the question is not "'If you commit murder and can't be caught, was that murder wrong?', not at all... but i find curious that your first aproach is that... I would say where I want this to go, but that would be wrong for the experiment and the game, I want people to get to that question-conclusion alone, I want to see where do their arguments go with this situation.
Well, if Bill can put nosense, me too. But I don't see this like "nosense".
Then I can't find any point to it. Perhaps you could try posting in one sentence (two at the most) where the ethical dilemma is?
I can write an extense pm for anyone who is really curious about that and send it when this is post is death. For now, and here, I prefer the hypo.
I think I'll pass. So the 'point' is a secret? Then the whole thread is invalid.
vegetariantaxidermy wrote:
Then I can't find any point to it. Perhaps you could try posting in one sentence (two at the most) where the ethical dilemma is?
I can write an extense pm for anyone who is really curious about that and send it when this is post is death. For now, and here, I prefer the hypo.
I think I'll pass. So the 'point' is a secret? Then the whole thread is invalid.
Invalid? Invalid for what?
The "point" is to think for yourself, I can say what I think, but I want to see other people and how they think without saying what I think in this fields, I don't want them to argue with me about my "points", I want them to look for their points and then compare. And I think the better way to do that is this game.
thedoc wrote:
TSBU wrote:
I prefer to keep that out of the thread.
So you've never actually talked to a murderer.
Yes I do. More than once. But if I start talking about that, this thread will go there, and my experience is certeanly not a philosophic topic per se.
TSBU wrote:
The "point" is to think for yourself, I can say what I think, but I want to see other people and how they think without saying what I think in this fields, I don't want them to argue with me about my "points", I want them to look for their points and then compare. And I think the better way to do that is this game.
'Think' about what exactly? You haven't given us anything to 'think' about (except to perhaps wonder about your motives). I have a feeling this thread is going to die, like your hypothetical murder victims.
TSBU wrote:
The "point" is to think for yourself, I can say what I think, but I want to see other people and how they think without saying what I think in this fields, I don't want them to argue with me about my "points", I want them to look for their points and then compare. And I think the better way to do that is this game.
'Think' about what exactly? You haven't given us anything to 'think' about (except to perhaps wonder about your motives). I have a feeling this thread is going to die, like your hypothetical murder victims.
Everybody, everything dies eventually. And yes, this thread usually has an intense and short life XD.
And again, I have guiven that, if you can't see it, it's your problem.
TSBU wrote:
The "point" is to think for yourself, I can say what I think, but I want to see other people and how they think without saying what I think in this fields, I don't want them to argue with me about my "points", I want them to look for their points and then compare. And I think the better way to do that is this game.
'Think' about what exactly? You haven't given us anything to 'think' about (except to perhaps wonder about your motives). I have a feeling this thread is going to die, like your hypothetical murder victims.
Everybody, everything dies eventually. And yes, this thread usually has an intense and short life XD.
And again, I have guiven that, if you can't see it, it's your problem.
No you haven't. Do you play childish guessing and evading 'games' with your pupils? Your distasteful thread isn't worth any more of my time.
vegetariantaxidermy wrote:
'Think' about what exactly? You haven't given us anything to 'think' about (except to perhaps wonder about your motives). I have a feeling this thread is going to die, like your hypothetical murder victims.
Everybody, everything dies eventually. And yes, this thread usually has an intense and short life XD.
And again, I have guiven that, if you can't see it, it's your problem.
No you haven't. Do you play childish guessing and evading 'games' with your pupils? Your distasteful thread isn't worth any more of my time.
Yes, I love doing that with my pupils, they love it too. Do you answer with retoric sarcastic questions every time that a person doesn't agree with you?
Anyway, congrats, I've been saying "if you don't see the point, don't answer to this thread" since your second post I think.