Designer Babies

[Hobbes' Choice]

What the hell are you talking about?

Exactly what I could have asked you!!!!
Why not read back to yourself your last offering and suggest how it might related to designer babies.

OK, now I know what the problem is. OFTEN, very often, I speak from my knowledge in psychology. I speak of the why's people do as they do. To me it goes hand in hand with philosophy. Why? Because if one doesn't understand human motivation, including their own, then often their thoughts, beliefs, reasoning, and then assertions, come off as shallow, superficial, and uneducated, as they don't know why they say the things they do, they believe they do, but that's as far as it goes, and it's quite obvious, at least to people like me. Contrary to a lot of peoples belief here, I'm a very deep person, delving much deeper in peoples words than most do.
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Sadly you do not seem to be a great psychologist, and knee jerk with standard darwinist interpretations which do not match reality. You get me wrong all the time and tend to spew something about people being over bearing and arrogant, which is what YOU appear to be.

People do not argue in the light of the survival. You homespun evolutionary psychology just falls short of the mark every time. Winning arguments on this Forum is not going to earn me any success in sexual selection; its not going to get me a mate. Loosing an argument would be as about as effective for getting me a fuck tonight, in fact.

I've been in a happy relationship for 12 years. My son is 21 tomorrow and I do not want another one. SO your evolutionary psychology does not play out for me. I don't give a rat's arse for my selective advantage. I can make enemies here with no consequences for my selective potential. Think that over. You do that too. You see no benefit in rallying the troops not gaining kudos that would be of benefit in your selective potential. This is a consequence free environment in that regard.

People act in ways that are negative to their own interest all the time. Sometimes they act in their interest and that is when E-Pychs grasp at their straws of selective bias, and draw their ready made conclusions to justify their ideology. When no selective advantage is obvious, they squeeze what they can and invent advantage out of the plethora of survival neutral acts that fill people's lives - having long ago achieved their Darwinian Imperative, as I have, in bringing to the world viable progeny.

So why not just deal with the topic? The whole point about "designer babies" is that the rules of evolutionary psychology (if they ever were valuable), are null and void.

[SpheresOfBalance]

Exactly what I could have asked you!!!!
Why not read back to yourself your last offering and suggest how it might related to designer babies.

OK, now I know what the problem is. OFTEN, very often, I speak from my knowledge in psychology. I speak of the why's people do as they do. To me it goes hand in hand with philosophy. Why? Because if one doesn't understand human motivation, including their own, then often their thoughts, beliefs, reasoning, and then assertions, come off as shallow, superficial, and uneducated, as they don't know why they say the things they do, they believe they do, but that's as far as it goes, and it's quite obvious, at least to people like me. Contrary to a lot of peoples belief here, I'm a very deep person, delving much deeper in peoples words than most do.
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Sadly you do not seem to be a great psychologist,
Like your judgment is 'necessarily' informed. How much psychology have you actually studied? But you included, "seem," so you get credit for honesty. I try and do that as well, as at least I understand, that things aren't always as they seem.

and knee jerk with standard darwinist interpretations which do not match reality.
Incorrect! I never said what Darwin 'meant.' It's you that just insinuated that between us, only you could 'necessarily' know. What you'd have to ask yourself, in the interest of 'honesty,' is why you'd 'believe' this, if you cannot 'know' it for a 'fact,' which is where an understanding of psychology comes in. In fact, both of us reading Darwin would yield equal potentials in our understanding his 'meaning,' depending of course upon other peripheral knowledge that might illuminate more or less of what he 'actually' meant. Then there is additional meaning, that even he, 'in his time,' might not have considered. Knowledge has a way of being 'cumulative,' thus 'revisionist.'

You get me wrong all the time and tend to spew something about people being over bearing and arrogant, which is what YOU appear to be.
I'm very happy to see that you are sometimes including words, that take into consideration potential flaws in perception, as I've said, it lends to honesty; but in fact, it's both of us that can sometimes 'seem' quite arrogant. What I've highlighted in blue above is quite the opposite, and it's to do with psychology, you're attempting to protect yourself, understandably. Obviously "all the time" is a falsehood. Unless of course you believe that when I've agreed with you, it was because, 'I'd gotten you wrong.' Which actually, 'could' have been the case, but it's not, as my strongest suit in English, is reading comprehension, due to sixteen years of reading highly technical US DOD publications pertaining to multimillion dollar aircraft systems. I had no problems doing my job, in fact they practically begged me to stay. And I attended college after my stint with the US DOD. But I'll not sit here and tell you that I've remembered everything I've been taught. In fact, like everyone else, I only remember those things that are the most important to me, as I revisit them over and over again, keeping them as fresh as possible. We each have our own unique set of those things which are the most important, mine has largely been psychology, with a bit of philosophy thrown in. And then there's music!


People do not argue in the light of the survival.
If I've taken your meaning correctly, as "the," preceding "survival," seems out of place, which I took to mean, "people don't argue as an attempt at ensuring their survival," then my answer is, "we do it all the time." As a matter of fact, it's the primary reason we do it. But then you'd probably have to have read, "Denial of Death," to understand it.

You homespun evolutionary psychology just falls short of the mark every time.
Now you're again protecting yourself from that which you 'believe you understand' of my education in psychology, as you project it upon the extremely small amount of words I've shared, as I've never apprised you of all of it. In fact I'd have to have given you a copy of a book, I'd written on the subject, for you to even begin to understand it. I haven't written enough in my five years here at the PNF, to even come close to the amount of data you'd have to understand, so as to make educated commentary on it's legitimacy.

Winning arguments on this Forum is not going to earn me any success in sexual selection; its not going to get me a mate. Loosing an argument would be as about as effective for getting me a fuck tonight, in fact.

I've been in a happy relationship for 12 years. My son is 21 tomorrow and I do not want another one. SO your evolutionary psychology does not play out for me. I don't give a rat's arse for my selective advantage. I can make enemies here with no consequences for my selective potential. Think that over. You do that too. You see no benefit in rallying the troops not gaining kudos that would be of benefit in your selective potential. This is a consequence free environment in that regard.

People act in ways that are negative to their own interest all the time. Sometimes they act in their interest and that is when E-Pychs grasp at their straws of selective bias, and draw their ready made conclusions to justify their ideology. When no selective advantage is obvious, they squeeze what they can and invent advantage out of the plethora of survival neutral acts that fill people's lives - having long ago achieved their Darwinian Imperative, as I have, in bringing to the world viable progeny.

So why not just deal with the topic? The whole point about "designer babies" is that the rules of evolutionary psychology (if they ever were valuable), are null and void.
I'm not commenting on the rest, as I've already covered enough to address it all. Time is of concern. Some of what you said, I agree with, and some I don't. Suffice it to say, that once you've 'understood' everything I've learned, pertaining to this topic, you'll be hard pressed to disagree. Of course your want or need to do so, is another issue entirely!

[Hobbes' Choice]

I'm not commenting on the rest, as I've already covered enough to address it all. Time is of concern. Some of what you said, I agree with, and some I don't. Suffice it to say, that once you've 'understood' everything I've learned, pertaining to this topic, you'll be hard pressed to disagree. Of course your want or need to do so, is another issue entirely!

What I know, you will never know' you've stopped listening years ago.

One thing is for sure; i've learned, time and again, what a closed-minded arrogant p**** you are.

On the matter at hand - I've forgotten more than you've ever known, or will know. on this topic, and viewed with a skeptical and critical eye you shall never have the privilege to acquire, since your mind, such as it is, has long been closed for business.

[SpheresOfBalance]

I'm not commenting on the rest, as I've already covered enough to address it all. Time is of concern. Some of what you said, I agree with, and some I don't. Suffice it to say, that once you've 'understood' everything I've learned, pertaining to this topic, you'll be hard pressed to disagree. Of course your want or need to do so, is another issue entirely!

What I know, you will never know' you've stopped listening years ago.
That's just your way of sucking yourself; autoerotica.


One thing is for sure; i've learned, time and again, what a closed-minded arrogant p**** you are.
Yadda, yadda, yadda... Because I won't buy into your BS, yes we already know that's how you roll.


On the matter at hand - I've forgotten more than you've ever known, or will know. on this topic, and viewed with a skeptical and critical eye you shall never have the privilege to acquire, since your mind, such as it is, has long been closed for business.
Yes, yes... We all know of your megalomania.

[Hobbes' Choice]

I'm not commenting on the rest, as I've already covered enough to address it all. Time is of concern. Some of what you said, I agree with, and some I don't. Suffice it to say, that once you've 'understood' everything I've learned, pertaining to this topic, you'll be hard pressed to disagree. Of course your want or need to do so, is another issue entirely!

What I know, you will never know' you've stopped listening years ago.
That's just your way of sucking yourself; autoerotica.


One thing is for sure; i've learned, time and again, what a closed-minded arrogant p**** you are.
Yadda, yadda, yadda... Because I won't buy into your BS, yes we already know that's how you roll.


On the matter at hand - I've forgotten more than you've ever known, or will know. on this topic, and viewed with a skeptical and critical eye you shall never have the privilege to acquire, since your mind, such as it is, has long been closed for business.
Yes, yes... We all know of your megalomania.

Closed for business : confirmed.

[SpheresOfBalance]

What I know, you will never know' you've stopped listening years ago.
That's just your way of sucking yourself; autoerotica.


One thing is for sure; i've learned, time and again, what a closed-minded arrogant p**** you are.
Yadda, yadda, yadda... Because I won't buy into your BS, yes we already know that's how you roll.


On the matter at hand - I've forgotten more than you've ever known, or will know. on this topic, and viewed with a skeptical and critical eye you shall never have the privilege to acquire, since your mind, such as it is, has long been closed for business.
Yes, yes... We all know of your megalomania.

Closed for business : confirmed.

Whinny little bitch when he can't have it his way? : He's never been any other way!