Truth is not found in mental chatter.

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Reflex wrote:
Dontaskme wrote:
Reflex wrote:For me, reading I AM THAT: Dialogues of Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj was like reading about the life of a potato. It captured my attention at first, but quickly became repetitive and boring --
Advaita literature does tend to say the same thing over and over again...but for me, it's the pure simplicity within the message that I love.

It has the opposite effect on me. I can't get enough of it. To me, nonduality is the most beautiful subject ever. I love reading about it, it's pleasure factor is like coming home to a nice cup of hot chocolate and snuggling down in a comfy chair in front of an open log fire on a freezing cold winters night.
A Course in Consciousness (not to be confused with ACIM) should be of interest, then. (PDF file)

Thanks, but I've read this.

Finished with self inquiry now. I broke out the matrix years ago. I'm home.
Nonduality may to those not familiar with it's content comprise a new belief system, either to be adopted or rejected. However, that is not my
intention nor is it the intention of the sages of nonduality who are quoted and
discussed. Beliefs are not understanding in themselves--they can actually be
obstructions to understanding.
In other words, Nonduality is not a belief system, it is that which does away with all beliefs.
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Dalek Prime wrote:Has anyone actually written the biography of a potato? (And strangely, Harbal and I were just speaking of the intellectual prowess of trees.... Hmmmm......) I think a tree's biography would be vastly more interesting than 'today, I spudded'.
Why would anyone want to write biographies about dead things? would that be more interesting to the intellect in your opinion?
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Why would anyone want to write biographies about dead things?
There's just what's happening, but no separate thing is making it happen. If there was a ''anyone'' making it happen, they'd be able to stop the happening before it happens you dummy......( I don't know how many times I have to tell you that)
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A dog grabs a sausage and chews it and enjoys a good feeling.

The dog has made something happen.

Or is it a mere illusion on the part of the dog ?

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duszek wrote: Or is it a mere illusion on the part of the dog ?
What does the dog care as long as it enjoys the sausage. Even canine wisdom is superior to DAM's.
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duszek wrote:A dog grabs a sausage and chews it and enjoys a good feeling.

The dog has made something happen.

Or is it a mere illusion on the part of the dog ?
Oneness or the life force in the dog grabs the sausage, the dog didn't do it...dog is just a concept....it is oneness that knows the feeling of pleasure and the concept dog as it arises in the exact same moment...it becomes aware of it's own knowing.


The concept ''pleasure'' and ''dog'' also arise in oneness and are known in the exact same moment as they arise.

What are concepts, sensations, and feelings arising in?

They arise in awareness....otherwise they could not be known or experienced. There is an awareness here right now that knows and experiences life as it's happening....in that every thing is known.....except for the awareness itself...that cannot be known by any thing arising within it.

Lets see what arises within awareness.....thoughts. beliefs, sensations, feelings, emotions, words, concepts, ideas, sound, light, the list is endless....but can you as awareness hold the things I've just mentioned up in from of you and look at them ?....no you can't do it because you are those things...and you are that which is aware of them.

How do you the concept human know the dog enjoys a good feeling? ...there is no way you could know unless you were the dog. But you cannot be the concept for reasons I've just explained, and you cannot be the awareness because you cannot be what you already are.

Concepts don't know or do anything, the knower doer is the awareness which cannot be known by the concept...the concept i already known by awareness.

No one is aware because there is only awareness, therefore everything is aware.

Concepts are words which are in essence meaningless in and of themselves but meaning nonetheless is given but not by the human concept but the one who knows the concept as it arises in you which is the awareness of the concept.... that's you.

Oneness or awareness or life or what ever it calls itself.... is not a concept, it calls itself a concept because it cannot know or see itself by any other way other than as and through the concept / image of itself.... the concept gives birth to no thing...or put another way...the no thing gives birth to the concept....in other words....death is life - and life is death...they are the same one aka this immediate aliveness here right now which has no concept of being alive or dead except in it's own conception....self created, self taught, self perpetuating, from self to self an endless source.

The dog is just a dead conceptual name for the unknown live action of life grabbing a sausage and the feeling that comes with it ..the feeling is the effect (reaction) of what's already happened in life's constant flux....all happenings are un-caused actions in the timelessness of infinite space..or awareness expressing itself infinitely forever in eternity...events are only known by their effect in cause and effect timespace duality...which is an appearance ...aka a re-action....an illusion.

..LIFE is running and functioning quietly and unknowingly as one unitary action is not an illusion... life is happening before there is an awareness of the happening by itself..therefore awareness can be either latent or kinetic ... It's one life in action appearing as every re-action.

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Dontaskme wrote:the dog didn't do it...dog is just a concept....it is oneness that knows the feeling of pleasure
No, it's "oneness" that's just the concept. How many times do you have to be told?
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Harbal wrote:
Dontaskme wrote:the dog didn't do it...dog is just a concept....it is oneness that knows the feeling of pleasure
No, it's "oneness" that's just the concept. How many times do you have to be told?
Until you stop asking and wanting an answer. :lol:
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Dontaskme wrote: Until you stop asking and wanting an answer. :lol:
You don't have an answer. You just keep throwing the same crap against the wall in the hope that, eventually, the wall will be completely obscured by it.
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Harbal wrote:
Dontaskme wrote: Until you stop asking and wanting an answer. :lol:
You don't have an answer. You just keep throwing the same crap against the wall in the hope that, eventually, the wall will be completely obscured by it.
I have all the answers.

If I didn't ... a question could not even arise in me....for what the hell would a question mean to me, without relating it to it's opposite?

Better to get yourself a proper education dummy.
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Dontaskme wrote: I have all the answers.
The wrong answers don't count.
Better to get yourself a proper education
In order to see things your way requires being brainwashed rather than educated. Better to get yourself debriefed, sucker.
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Harbal wrote: In order to see things your way requires being brainwashed rather than educated. Better to get yourself debriefed, sucker.
There is only one correct way of seeing how things actually are.

Have you ever tried seeing backwards?

Life is like a flowing river in constant flux....no one knows what is going to happen next....the only way you could possibly know anything in the instance of now is through the memory which is dead. You worship dead things while that which is alive passes you by.

Be alive in the flow of the only moment there is...don't be a dried up river, dummy.
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Harbal wrote: The wrong answers don't count.
If there's a question there.. a right answer will also be there...for they are from same source.

How can the source be wrong?

That's like saying...how can something that's already happened be wrong.
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Dontaskme wrote:
There is only one correct way of seeing how things actually are.

Have you ever tried seeing backwards?

Life is like flowing river in constant flux....no one knows what is going to happen next....the only way you know way you could possibly know anything in the instance of now is through the memory which is dead. You worship dead things while that which is alive passes you by.

Be alive in the flow of the only moment there is...don't be a dried up river, dummy.
You need to go back to whoever filled your head with all this rubbish and tell them you want your money back. You've been taken for a ride you hapless idiot.
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Harbal wrote: You need to go back to whoever filled your head with all this rubbish and tell them you want your money back. You've been taken for a ride you hapless idiot.
Well if that's your belief, then just try holding that belief up in front of your eyes to see if it actually exists as a real thing, or did you just make all that up?
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