Truth is not found in mental chatter.

[Dontaskme]

People do not make my life possible. I have no idea what has made my life possible, but I do know it wasn't a human. People have made my life comfortable, and I have done same for them. One has to walk a mile in their shoes before casting judgement on them personally.

No, your life is possible via humans, most especially your parents.

One turning point for me was holidaying at Hamilton Island on the Great Barrier Reef. I was admiring the beauty as I stood on the beach looking out to sea. Then I looked over to the side and saw the giant resort building jutting into the air and it completely spoiled the vibe. I thought it a shame that humans have to despoil nature's beauty with their unsightly stuff.

Then a moment of realisation: every single thing I thought of as beautiful in that scene would kill me in seconds. The only things that gave a damn whether I lived or died were human, apart from two dogs. The Sun - a deadly giant. The ocean? Cold and dangerous. The sky? Cold and lacking in oxygen. Beautiful only at a distance, and I was only there to appreciate the sunset thanks to the cleverness and industry of countless human ancestors - who designed the hygiene, sanitation, utilities, medicine and social structures to help me live this long, the scientists, engineers and pilots that made my flight there possible; humans designed my comfortable resort hut not to mention countless other details we all routinely take for granted.

Your attitude calls to mind the "What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?" sketch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-fRo5-p9hE

This is your story not mine. I am that in which all stories arise and fall. I am the immutable one.

[Greta]

SCREAM AND YELL ALL YOU WANT

Why?

[Greta]

This is your story not mine. I am that in which all stories arise and fall. I am the immutable one.

You must be very, very special.

[Dontaskme]

People do not make my life possible. I have no idea what has made my life possible, but I do know it wasn't a human. People have made my life comfortable, and I have done same for them. One has to walk a mile in their shoes before casting judgement on them personally.

No, your life is possible via humans, most especially your parents.

One turning point for me was holidaying at Hamilton Island on the Great Barrier Reef. I was admiring the beauty as I stood on the beach looking out to sea. Then I looked over to the side and saw the giant resort building jutting into the air and it completely spoiled the vibe. I thought it a shame that humans have to despoil nature's beauty with their unsightly stuff.

Then a moment of realisation: every single thing I thought of as beautiful in that scene would kill me in seconds. The only things that gave a damn whether I lived or died were human, apart from two dogs. The Sun - a deadly giant. The ocean? Cold and dangerous. The sky? Cold and lacking in oxygen. Beautiful only at a distance, and I was only there to appreciate the sunset thanks to the cleverness and industry of countless human ancestors - who designed the hygiene, sanitation, utilities, medicine and social structures to help me live this long, the scientists, engineers and pilots that made my flight there possible; humans designed my comfortable resort hut not to mention countless other details we all routinely take for granted.

Humans never did a thing, it was the invisible spirit within them that did it all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrhLH0rIjbA

Lets be friends Greta. ??

Arguing never solved anything..,, you are my sister in love.

Take it or leave it.

[Greta]

Humans never did a thing, it was the invisible spirit within them that did it all.

I am not convinced about invisible spirits but if they did exist, they would reside in life forms - including humans - so aren't they worthy of respect and regard?

Humanity is worthy of our respect and gratitude. Yes, they can be massively flawed, annoying, damnably inconvenient and intrusive but, to be fair, they also have more unpropitious qualities :)

[Dontaskme]

Humans never did a thing, it was the invisible spirit within them that did it all.

I am not convinced about invisible spirits but if they did exist, they would reside in life forms - including humans - so aren't they worthy of respect and regard?

Dear Great Greta..I am also capable of holding you tender. Please don't be sick, or faint...

It is true that humans made the world for which I'm thankful for.

But that's not what I'm talking about...I'm talking about the who that made the human that made the world who...who made that one?

Can you not believe in that one?

''Do not be surprised, brothers, that the world hates you.'' - -John 3:13

Love makes everything better, because only love is real. You are that love, right here now. There is no need to look in the world for what you already are. Love has no opposition.

Who you really are is invisible.

That which is visible are dead things. Shed light on those things.

if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another

[Dontaskme]

The brilliant wisdom of Benjamin Smythe...talks about the narration of our mental chatter we believe to be real.

When in truth ..All that is real is the gap between our thoughts.

The Cause of Suffering

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTp9qGZ0Y_E



All comments are welcome! ..but you might not get want you want in the form of a response.

And We really hate it when we don't get what we want...don't we?

[Greta]

But that's not what I'm talking about...I'm talking about the who that made the human that made the world who...who made that one?

[Dontaskme]

But that's not what I'm talking about...I'm talking about the who that made the human that made the world who...who made that one?

Ah, now we are finally getting somewhere (joke!)

"All organic matter containing carbon was produced originally in stars,"

Almost 99% of the mass of the human body is made up of six elements: oxygen, carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, calcium, and phosphorus. Only about 0.85% is composed of another five elements: potassium, sulfur, sodium, chlorine, and magnesium. All are necessary for life.

But does life know it is alive? if it does then explain how and who knows?

[Greta]

But does life know it is alive? if it does then explain how and who knows?

We are not born self aware. It takes time.

[Dontaskme]

But does life know it is alive? if it does then explain how and who knows?

We are not born self aware. It takes time.

But who becomes aware?

Who is this Self that is aware?

Awareness is not what you think it is.

Awareness is timeless, so who is it that becomes aware in time?

[Dontaskme]

This is your story not mine. I am that in which all stories arise and fall. I am the immutable one.

You must be very, very special.

I am nothing...nothing is special.

Nothing is dependant on something to be.

Something is dependant on nothing to be.

Something doesn't know it's nothing. Nothing doesn't know it's something.

I am everything and nothing....never the twain shall meet except when there is an awakening from the dream.

[Dontaskme]

I don't worry about your abuse because it's not important. I'm just simply pointing out that you have been abusive towards me in this thread, seemingly for having the temerity to disagree with your cliched new age bullshit and to point out some factual errors.

I will be happy to leave you to your own little world if you stop misrepresenting me. I prefer not to leave misrepresentations unchallenged, even when the company is odious.

Okay, so you want to disagree with my cliched new age bullshit eh? that's fine, no one is forcing you to agree with anything.

I find it quite comical that it's even called ''new age'' when it's plainly obvious that there is only now that exists. And that anything prior to now is a dead memory since life is like a constantly flowing river...I've never actually seen a river flowing backwards...have you?

How do humans know anything...well what they do is they have to dip into their store house of information that appears to be archived somewhere between the ears, it's called the memory, it's similar to a library full of books,but there's nothing actually alive in there, just a bunch of information......Do you think what's inside a book is alive, shall we give it a poke and see, wake -up wake -up book, are you alive? .... enough of this silliness..

So then, if my bullshit is not agreeable, what is? would that be your bullshit then? Is one expected to agree with that? would that be the real truth? I wonder on who's authority was that truth passed as real truth? ...do you even know the author of that truth? if you have any answer I would gladly like to discuss that with you?

Since you are up for the challenge as you've so plainly made that clear.

I prefer not to leave misrepresentations unchallenged

Your call..

PS..and don't forget to answer the other post I sent you, the one asking who is self aware?

[Dontaskme]

You'd better start believing that reality is real or it will slip away.

Hmm, depends who it is that's slipping away. I don't see life slipping away do you? It's still there every morning when I look out the bedroom window.

Now the question is...is it real?

How do know it's real?

Are you sure it's real?

If you are sure, then prove it in your own words by explaining it to me. Otherwise how can you expect me to believe your claim?

I'm being serious now, don't make claims that reality is real without irrefutable proof ....prove it..?

[Greta]

Now the question is...is it real?

How do know it's real?

Are you sure it's real?

If you are sure, then prove it in your own words by explaining it to me. Otherwise how can you expect me to believe your claim?

I'm being serious now, don't make claims that reality is real without irrefutable proof ....prove it..?

Do you believe that the Sun, Moon and Earth are real?