time to take the finger off the ignition switch

[sthitapragya]

Your thought process is closed to the idea that the mind might not exist. The theist's thought process is closed to the idea that God might not exist.

Both are believers with faith. Both are theists.

Believing in thoughts will get one no where where they already are.

Hmm, what am I to gain from all this nonsense, hmm ..

Take your bullshit somewhere else. No one here is interested.

[sthitapragya]

You KNOW that the mind exists and you do not need to make an assumption about it. That is belief. Or faith.

"Nothing ever happened,
this is the ultimate truth."

"Ultimately, nothing moves."

Log on to the inner-net and be kind to your mind (or not).

Blah Blah Blah!!

Moo!!

Woof!!

An omnipotent, omnipresent, omnibenevolent God created the entire universe just so a hairless ape could strut itself on centre stage.

Ain't that something?

Take your bullshit somewhere else. No one here is interested. Just for your information, I have you on ignore. So I just clicked on your post, and wrote this down at the bottom. I haven't read a word of what you said. I just want to convey to you:

Take your bullshit somewhere else. No one here is interested.

[Dontaskme]

How do you know that I do not KNOW that the Mind exists eternally, already, and so I do not need to make an assumption about this?

The I that knows a mind exists is a thought... < that's easy peasy.

But how would a thought know it exists? ... < now that's out of my league.

[Dontaskme]

I haven't read a word of what you said. I just want to convey to you:

That's because no one writes or reads this shit,...so thanks for letting yourself know.

Take your bullshit somewhere else. No one here is interested.

Why, you'd rather smell your own shit eh?

Hmm, we all like the smell of our own.





wah wah wah...I hate it when I don't get what I want.... wah wah wah

[ken]

Most theists here KNOW that God exists and they do not need to make an assumption about this. That is belief. Or faith.

You KNOW that the mind exists and you do not need to make an assumption about it. That is belief. Or faith.

Neither of you two have any proof of it. You cannot give any proof of it. You just KNOW. Your hypothesis is a conclusion without any proof whatsoever except your claim that you KNOW.

Your thought process is closed to the idea that the mind might not exist. The theist's thought process is closed to the idea that God might not exist.

Both are believers with faith. Both are theists.

Who ever said I know the Mind exists?

How do you know that I do not KNOW that the Mind exists eternally, already, and so I do not need to make an assumption about this?

The 'I' IS God, i.e., the 'I' in the question who am 'I'.

Ken did.

NO i DID NOT.

You really need to READ to understand.

First I asked a question.
Second I asked how do you know that I do not KNOW that the Mind exists eternally.....

Asking how do you know that IS NOT saying that I know that....

Can you understand now?

[ken]

How do you know that I do not KNOW that the Mind exists eternally, already, and so I do not need to make an assumption about this?

The I that knows a mind exists is a thought... < that's easy peasy.

Wrong.

'I' am the Mind.

'i' am thoughts (and feelings).

Can you spot the difference?

But how would a thought know it exists? ... < now that's out of my league.

That is out of your league because you are a thought. Thoughts do not KNOW. They, by definition, only think.

By the way in your OP 'Truth is not found in mental chatter', you wrote, "Okay..moving on then....

Ask your self, who am I ?

And wait for the answer to come...that'll be the truth.

Try it, and for those who are happy little sports and want to play the human drama with me, report back with your findings?

But don't write reams and reams of comments, just simple straight to the point answers will suffice...thanks in advance."

I was happy to play the "human drama" with you and reported back with my findings.

I gave just one simple straight to the point answer of 'I' am God.

Why did you not reply? Do you not want to now play the "human drama" (whatever that is)?

[sthitapragya]

Who ever said I know the Mind exists?

How do you know that I do not KNOW that the Mind exists eternally, already, and so I do not need to make an assumption about this?

The 'I' IS God, i.e., the 'I' in the question who am 'I'.

Ken did.

NO i DID NOT.

You really need to READ to understand.

First I asked a question.
Second I asked how do you know that I do not KNOW that the Mind exists eternally.....

Asking how do you know that IS NOT saying that I know that....

Can you understand now?

Then why did you ask it? Also your whole theory is based on the 'I' and I which you claim are two different things. There is nothing to suggest that 'I' and I are different. You BELIEVE so without any proof. You take that to be a truth on which you base all your theory, isn't it?

[sthitapragya]

I haven't read a word of what you said. I just want to convey to you:

That's because no one writes or reads this shit,...so thanks for letting yourself know.

Take your bullshit somewhere else. No one here is interested.

Why, you'd rather smell your own shit eh?

Hmm, we all like the smell of our own.





wah wah wah...I hate it when I don't get what I want.... wah wah wah

Take your bullshit somewhere else. I am not interested. It seems Ken still is. So direct your comments at him. Not at me. Oh, I just saw the pic of the little kid after I posted it. So I am editing.

No you did not hurt my feelings. A cockroach or a rat don't hurt people's feelings. They are a pest. They irritate. That is you. You are an irritating pest. You have nothing of any significance to say. And I really have no wish to read through your crap. It is boring, mindless and irritating. So please don't reply to me.

[attofishpi]

Why did you even bother with another response to DontAskMoron. I thought he was just a 'drip on a green folliage' but now more obvious as a little blabbing baby.

[Dontaskme]

Take your bullshit somewhere else. I am not interested. It seems Ken still is. So direct your comments at him. Not at me. Oh, I just saw the pic of the little kid after I posted it. So I am editing.

No you did not hurt my feelings. A cockroach or a rat don't hurt people's feelings. They are a pest. They irritate. That is you. You are an irritating pest. You have nothing of any significance to say. And I really have no wish to read through your crap. It is boring, mindless and irritating. So please don't reply to me.

Hmm, so you are not going to be reading my posts..even though you are, because you have responded, and you are reading and responding because you want me to know that you think I am a pest, and you also want me to know that you are not going to talk to a pest, even though you are talking to me, because the only way you can tell me I'm a pest is to talk to me, and in order to know what to say to me you have to read and respond accordingly just to make sure I know what you want me to know which is I am a pest, because according to you, what ever I write is rubbish, and before you can call me out on my rubbish you have to act as judge and jury and dish out the deserved reply which is usually I'm not interested in your rubbish. Even though I've never called you a pest. Or is it just that my voice is a threat to your voice, so you rubbish my voice in favor of yours so you don't look like you are talking rubbish too...or is your rubbish just better than other peoples rubbish in general?

And why are you calling a rat and a cockroach a pest. Isn't that a bit mean on the rat ..do you see yourself more important than these creatures, do you see yourself to have more significance, purpose and reason to exist? What if a rat said to you that you are a pest? Thank God rats don't function with that delusional mind-set...geez could you imagine the ensuing chaos if rats started calling humans pests.

[Dontaskme]

Wrong.

'I' am the Mind.

'i' am thoughts (and feelings).

Can you spot the difference?

I am the mind is a thought.

I am God is a thought.

But how would a thought know it exists? ... < now that's out of my league.

That is out of your league because you are a thought. Thoughts do not KNOW. They, by definition, only think.

Do THOUGHTS think?

[ken]

sthitapragya

You think you can tell me what I am, what I do, and what I think. You are unable to prove this, let alone be able to know what the truth is. Only I know what 'I' am, what thoughts are within this head, and what this body does. Therefore, 'you' are WRONG in just about everything you have said here in relation to Me. I can prove this, you can not.

You say, "You cannot get by without belief. Your life would come to a complete standstill if you did not believe." "I am saying that you are ignorant if you say you can get by without beliefs. You would not be able to survive."

Before you could even begin to prove this belief you will have to answer and explain exactly these questions:
1. Why exactly would I not be able to survive, without beliefs?
2. What comes to a "complete standstill", if i did not believe?
3. How exactly would a "complete standstill" happen if people did not believe?
For example, does the body I am in just stop breathing and pumping blood if I do not believe, or does the body just stop moving, or does life itself just completely stop around me? Or, does something else happen?

You say, "EVERYONE believes".
I say, they do not have to believe.

The difference between the two is unlike you I am not saying what people have to do. As soon as you tell Me or others that we HAVE TO do something, then you better be able to back that up with some proof and evidence. Until then what right do you have in telling others what they have to do.

I just say that it is not necessary to believe or disbelieve, and if and when a person does, then they are far more open to learning far more.

I have said, "By the way how do new born babies live? They do not have beliefs nor do they make certain assumptions."

I have backed up what i say with some proof and evidence, which you totally ignore or refuse to look at and answer, your inability or refusal to answer that question is proof and evidence that is needed. I am able to back up what I say because unlike you I am not saying what others HAVE TO do, I am just saying what is possible and actually already happens.

Either back up what you say with some proof or evidence, or refute what i say by just answering the question that i have provided you with. I have given you an opportunity to prove me wrong by giving you a simple, easy and straightforward appropriate question. Here i will make it even easier for you to prove Me wrong and you right:

At what age does a body have to be when it starts believing, or otherwise it will stop surviving?

(By the way if you would like me to pick apart everything else you have written, then I am more than willing to do so. But I will await your reply to this first.)

[Dontaskme]

Do you not want to now play the "human drama" (whatever that is)?

You don't know what human drama is...yet you say ''I am God''

Hilarious.

[ken]

Wrong.

'I' am the Mind.

'i' am thoughts (and feelings).

Can you spot the difference?

I am the mind is a thought.

I am God is a thought.

Not if the statement could be Universally accepted and agreed upon.

By the way you did not answer my question. Can you spot and what was the difference?

But how would a thought know it exists? ... < now that's out of my league.

That is out of your league because you are a thought. Thoughts do not KNOW. They, by definition, only think.

Do THOUGHTS think?

Yes, because they are unsure.

What else could thought/s do?

It is good to see you finally asking some clarifying questions here, but why not do it in your own post, where you put up the challenge?

[ken]

Do you not want to now play the "human drama" (whatever that is)?

You don't know what human drama is...yet you say ''I am God''

Hilarious.

Even 'i', God, do NOT know what the brain hides. The brain is made up in such a way that it can even fool its own self. 'I' am able to prove and show this and even expose all of what is hidden in the brain, but if a brain does not want to reveal the definition that it, itself, gives to a word or words, then even 'I' am unable to expose this.

Why do you not just provide 'your' definition of "human drama" or just say what it means?

Are you afraid of something?

By the way 'My', God's, definition of 'human drama' could be completely different than 'yours'. Just like is the case with most of the words humans use. They use words like they KNOW exactly what they mean but when questioned for clarification human beings have a tendency to hide behind that brain, and then do some thing like exactly what you are doing now.