Philosophy Explorer wrote:
Your biblical POV is wrong. Remember I stated on the two tablets. I don't care about the others. To add millions of moviegoers know about The Ten Commandments that still elude you and you're not a biblical scholar for sure.
PhilX
Yeah Charlton Heston was God!!!
You really are showing yourself up here.
Not ONCE does it say there were "TEN" commandments in the Bible.
But you keep watching the moving pictures - they are more easy to digest than words.
The movie has a basis, you don't.
PhilX
Most people have the sense to know the difference between a myth and reality.
Do yourself a favour and open a fucking book for once in your life.
Yeah Charlton Heston was God!!!
You really are showing yourself up here.
Not ONCE does it say there were "TEN" commandments in the Bible.
But you keep watching the moving pictures - they are more easy to digest than words.
The movie has a basis, you don't.
PhilX
Most people have the sense to know the difference between a myth and reality.
Do yourself a favour and open a fucking book for once in your life.
That's your problem. Your twisted, immature mind loves to create fantasy worlds for itself. You could do very well to follow your own advice and face the truth. Even Bob seems to do better at this occasionally.
All you do is act as a troll here. I dare you to post some threads and start learning. Try to defend your positions because trying to attack others hasn't helped your case.
Philosophy Explorer wrote:
Most people have the sense to know the difference between a myth and reality.
Do yourself a favour and open a fucking book for once in your life.
This is all very confusing. Do the ten commandments apply to Christians? If yes, why do Christians work on the Sabbath? There is one Christian on this forum who claims that the Sabbath rule does not apply to Christians, because Christ said so. I don't understand how that works. Why would Christ say that the clear commandment of the Sabbath given by his father does not apply anymore? And if so, the Christians have only nine commandments and not ten. Unless there are other commandments which do not apply to Christians.
Also if no idols are to be made, then why is there one of Christ in every church?
Philosophy Explorer wrote:
Most people have the sense to know the difference between a myth and reality.
Do yourself a favour and open a fucking book for once in your life.
This is all very confusing. Do the ten commandments apply to Christians? If yes, why do Christians work on the Sabbath? There is one Christian on this forum who claims that the Sabbath rule does not apply to Christians, because Christ said so. I don't understand how that works. Why would Christ say that the clear commandment of the Sabbath given by his father does not apply anymore? And if so, the Christians have only nine commandments and not ten. Unless there are other commandments which do not apply to Christians.
Also if no idols are to be made, then why is there one of Christ in every church?
You quoted wrong because it was Hobbes who said that.
Philosophy Explorer wrote:
Most people have the sense to know the difference between a myth and reality.
Do yourself a favour and open a fucking book for once in your life.
This is all very confusing. Do the ten commandments apply to Christians? If yes, why do Christians work on the Sabbath? There is one Christian on this forum who claims that the Sabbath rule does not apply to Christians, because Christ said so. I don't understand how that works. Why would Christ say that the clear commandment of the Sabbath given by his father does not apply anymore? And if so, the Christians have only nine commandments and not ten. Unless there are other commandments which do not apply to Christians.
Also if no idols are to be made, then why is there one of Christ in every church?
You quoted wrong because it was Hobbes who said that.
PhilX
You are right. And I am sorry for my mistake. But can you clear my confusion?
sthitapragya wrote:
This is all very confusing. Do the ten commandments apply to Christians? If yes, why do Christians work on the Sabbath? There is one Christian on this forum who claims that the Sabbath rule does not apply to Christians, because Christ said so. I don't understand how that works. Why would Christ say that the clear commandment of the Sabbath given by his father does not apply anymore? And if so, the Christians have only nine commandments and not ten. Unless there are other commandments which do not apply to Christians.
Also if no idols are to be made, then why is there one of Christ in every church?
You quoted wrong because it was Hobbes who said that.
PhilX
You are right. And I am sorry for my mistake. But can you clear my confusion?
I know it's in the KJV so the Ten Commandments would apply to Christians. Not aware of any loopholes nor about Christ saying the Tenth Commandment no longer applies to Christians (you can try internet research to see what you can learn).
Philosophy Explorer wrote:
You quoted wrong because it was Hobbes who said that.
PhilX
You are right. And I am sorry for my mistake. But can you clear my confusion?
I know it's in the KJV so the Ten Commandments would apply to Christians. Not aware of any loopholes nor about Christ saying the Tenth Commandment no longer applies to Christians (you can try internet research to see what you can learn).
PhilX
Well, a Christian named Immanuel Kunt says that the Sabbath does not apply to Christians. Maybe I will forward your post to him.
Greatest I am wrote:Are all believers in God automatically idol worshipers?
All believers in God are following an entity that they only know by what other people have said about that God. Few, if any, know their God from apotheosis or first-hand information.
That fact makes whoever that God is, an idol.
It must be so, as what is believed is not a known or real entity. Believers have no real or personal knowledge or experience of their God. All a believer can have is faith in whichever God they are idolizing based on what others have said.
Do you, as a believer, recognize that you are an idol worshiper?
LOL!!! ..are you actually aware of what you are saying, or ..is this a bad drunken stooper babble writing?
Greatest I am wrote:believers in God are following an entity that they only know by what other people have said about that God.
HexHammer wrote:LOL!!! ..are you actually aware of what you are saying, or ..is this a bad drunken stooper babble writing?
Hey Hex, maybe your own "bad drunken stupor" makes everything sound like babble to you. I think G.I.A. has made some good points. Clearly, a lot of theism is an intoxicated brew of ideas which are worshipped (sometimes manically) without question. And all sorts of symbols are involved, which people plaster all over the place, and bow down to... rather than cherishing the sacred spirit in another human being who doesn't share the same belief. What ELSE can that be than IDOL worship?
Thanks for recognizing the issues at hand.
Our friend may not have the intelligence to recognize them.
"'Do not make idols or set up an image or a sacred stone for yourselves, and do not place a carved stone in your land to bow down before it. I am the LORD your God.
- Leviticus 26:1
God isn't an idol (simply). Again this tastes like the words of an Atheist when one is accused to worship an idol. No, quite something else, God and Truth become one! With the 10 Commandments, one is true in believing.
Cheers!
Note your own quote. "'Do not make idols or etc."
Most believers will not admit that they are idol worshiping the mental construct that they have invented for themselves from the words of other people and not of anything of a real God.
As to your God awful 10 Commandments, I guess that you do not recognise how self-centred the first 4 are instead on being centered on others or how the covet commandments places women with a man's other possessions. That one fits well with Christian misogyny and homophobia. So much for equality.
God isn't an idol (simply). Again this tastes like the words of an Atheist when one is accused to worship an idol. No, quite something else, God and Truth become one! With the 10 Commandments, one is true in believing.
Cheers!
There is no such thing as the ten commandments. There are many more than that, and they are all crazy.
Have to disagree. The Ten Commandments were presented at Mt. Sinai on two tablets by Moses so they really did exist, within the context of the Bible.
Morals I don't believe with the first four. My understanding is that these commandments were the main ones designed for descendants of Abraham, I suppose in part to keep them together as a people. The first four seems to bond these people to God and the latter six to define a moral relationship between those people (even the keeping of the Sabbath would be a bond as there were a number of practices designed to remind the people).
It's interesting that idols based on angels, etc. from Heaven are forbidden as it's extremely unlikely one would encounter such beings (remember within the context of the Bible).
Greatest I am wrote:believers in God are following an entity that they only know by what other people have said about that God.
HexHammer wrote:LOL!!! ..are you actually aware of what you are saying, or ..is this a bad drunken stooper babble writing?
Hey Hex, maybe your own "bad drunken stupor" makes everything sound like babble to you. I think G.I.A. has made some good points. Clearly, a lot of theism is an intoxicated brew of ideas which are worshipped (sometimes manically) without question. And all sorts of symbols are involved, which people plaster all over the place, and bow down to... rather than cherishing the sacred spirit in another human being who doesn't share the same belief. What ELSE can that be than IDOL worship?
Here in EU some are Lutheren Christians, that did away with the catholic saint whoring. We distsinct between Jesus and God, consider Jesus his son and is not a god.
He should know about the Spanish Amarda and the terrible storm that crushed it, why Elizabeth was considered God's elect, thus there would be no further attempts to make her catholic again.
Lacewing wrote:Hey Hex, maybe your own "bad drunken stupor" makes everything sound like babble to you. I think G.I.A. has made some good points. Clearly, a lot of theism is an intoxicated brew of ideas which are worshipped (sometimes manically) without question. And all sorts of symbols are involved, which people plaster all over the place, and bow down to... rather than cherishing the sacred spirit in another human being who doesn't share the same belief. What ELSE can that be than IDOL worship?
Thanks for recognizing the issues at hand.
Our friend may not have the intelligence to recognize them.
I will read on and see if I am correct.
Regards
DL
I clearly have the intellect, which you have not. Besides that I clearly have the better knowledge where you are ignorant, just see my previous post.
Give me an actual biblical reference that says there were Ten and I'll give up my objection, because the fact is the the condensed version of only ten is a more recent innovation.
If you care to read the bible you will see more than ten.
