Abortion is murder, or is it?

[Dalek Prime]

All I'm saying Henry is that we must stop trying to control women. That's why modern feminism is, and needs to be, vocal. Because they are nothing but controlled.

You're the king of 'stay out of my business'. Imagine if you were a woman, and you were told 'no contraception, and no abortion'. I, as a male, had no problem getting a vasectomy. Women don't get that ease of medical service for sterilization. They are often refused.

[Nick_A]

vege wrote:

So the kristian pervert Nick is supposedly against sharia, but hates secularism and women. It would appear that your idea of a untopia is indistinguishable from a 'sharia' country. Have you ever thought of emigrating to one?

This is a typical result of blind denial. There is simply no reason in it. It is like some demonic red entity with smoke coming out of its ears preaching hate in hope of justifying its own expressions of hatred. So what is the result? We have women for whatever reason ignoring women abused by sharia while applauding abortions. Is that the best animals called intelligent can do? Apparently so. So much for feminism defending women's rights and furthering mother love.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

vege wrote:

So the kristian pervert Nick is supposedly against sharia, but hates secularism and women. It would appear that your idea of a untopia is indistinguishable from a 'sharia' country. Have you ever thought of emigrating to one?

This is a typical result of blind denial. There is simply no reason in it. It is like some demonic red entity with smoke coming out of its ears preaching hate in hope of justifying its own expressions of hatred. So what is the result? We have women for whatever reason ignoring women abused by sharia while applauding abortions. Is that the best animals called intelligent can do? Apparently so. So much for feminism defending women's rights and furthering mother love.

So says the person who preaches hate with every post.

[Walker]

All I'm saying Henry is that we must stop trying to control women. That's why modern feminism is, and needs to be, vocal. Because they are nothing but controlled.

You're the king of 'stay out of my business'. Imagine if you were a woman, and you were told 'no contraception, and no abortion'. I, as a male, had no problem getting a vasectomy. Women don't get that ease of medical service for sterilization. They are often refused.

Imagine that.

Then consider the reality.
Contraception and abortion are readily available.
Women are free as women can be.

[Ferdi]

Re " Walker's on Fri Jun 24, 2016 8:59 am. Life begins at conception. It can be witnessed as a flash of light."
Must be the Holy Spirit enlightening you.
Life has no beginning, life is a label for an abstract.

[Walker]

Re " Walker's on Fri Jun 24, 2016 8:59 am. Life begins at conception. It can be witnessed as a flash of light."
Must be the Holy Spirit enlightening you.
Life has no beginning, life is a label for an abstract.

Holy Spirit. Aren't you the cute little abstraction.

Bright flash of light marks incredible moment life begins when sperm meets egg
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2016 ... ns-when-s/

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Re " Walker's on Fri Jun 24, 2016 8:59 am. Life begins at conception. It can be witnessed as a flash of light."
Must be the Holy Spirit enlightening you.
Life has no beginning, life is a label for an abstract.

Holy Spirit. Aren't you the cute little abstraction.

Bright flash of light marks incredible moment life begins when sperm meets egg
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2016 ... ns-when-s/

What does that have to do with abortion? You are a bloody moron. Do you think sperm are dead? Every time you masturbate you are murdering millions of living beings.

[Greta]

Here's an idea. How's about we just mind our own business, and leave women's bodies to themselves? I'm so sick of people trying to control them. Honestly, men should get bugger all say in what a woman does with her life or her body. You seed them, that's it.

Agree.

Besides, killing per se has never been an issue for humanity. It's not as though we are descended from generations of vegetarians. Worse, terminally ill people are denied legal mercy killing by this worry about killing. Weirdly, the same pro-lifers usually support weak gun regulation, illegal invasions of sovereign countries, the death penalty, and a few unhinged ones support the murder of doctors. Most happily chomp into animals that are far more sentient than the almost completely non-sentient lives they want to save more than anything else.

"Sanctity of life" is simply hypocritical nonsense that means zip in a world shaped by natural selection and competition. Everything kills in order to live and thrive.

[Walker]

Re " Walker's on Fri Jun 24, 2016 8:59 am. Life begins at conception. It can be witnessed as a flash of light."
Must be the Holy Spirit enlightening you.
Life has no beginning, life is a label for an abstract.

Holy Spirit. Aren't you the cute little abstraction.

Bright flash of light marks incredible moment life begins when sperm meets egg
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2016 ... ns-when-s/

What does that have to do with abortion? You are a bloody moron. Do you think sperm are dead? Every time you masturbate you are murdering millions of living beings.

You are definitely a woman with a vile streak. A little too vile. Something smells fishy.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Vege wrote:

The 'pro-life' movement isn't pro-life at all. It's anti-women. It's all about controlling and punishing women.

Anti-women??? Yes this is the same vege who condones the abuse of women by Sharia law by supporting the silence directed at it by feminists. You can't write this stuff. In your face hypocrisy

Lying little kristian. Show the post where I did any such thing. You know that lying is a sin don't you?

[vegetariantaxidermy]

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[Walker]

Here's an idea. How's about we just mind our own business, and leave women's bodies to themselves? I'm so sick of people trying to control them. Honestly, men should get bugger all say in what a woman does with her life or her body. You seed them, that's it.

Agree.

Besides, killing per se has never been an issue for humanity. It's not as though we are descended from generations of vegetarians. Worse, terminally ill people are denied legal mercy killing by this worry about killing. Weirdly, the same pro-lifers usually support weak gun regulation, illegal invasions of sovereign countries, the death penalty, and a few unhinged ones support the murder of doctors. Most happily chomp into animals that are far more sentient than the almost completely non-sentient lives they want to save more than anything else.

"Sanctity of life" is simply hypocritical nonsense that means zip in a world shaped by natural selection and competition. Everything kills in order to live and thrive.

Sure. Based on that nonsense people are no different than animals, and women don't have access to abortion on demand.

Living in your heads, not reality.

The one you write to exists in your mind.
The one who writes to you does not.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Here's an idea. How's about we just mind our own business, and leave women's bodies to themselves? I'm so sick of people trying to control them. Honestly, men should get bugger all say in what a woman does with her life or her body. You seed them, that's it.

Agree.

Besides, killing per se has never been an issue for humanity. It's not as though we are descended from generations of vegetarians. Worse, terminally ill people are denied legal mercy killing by this worry about killing. Weirdly, the same pro-lifers usually support weak gun regulation, illegal invasions of sovereign countries, the death penalty, and a few unhinged ones support the murder of doctors. Most happily chomp into animals that are far more sentient than the almost completely non-sentient lives they want to save more than anything else.

"Sanctity of life" is simply hypocritical nonsense that means zip in a world shaped by natural selection and competition. Everything kills in order to live and thrive.

Sure. Based on that nonsense people are no different than animals, and women don't have access to abortion on demand.

Living in your heads, not reality.

The one you write to exists in your mind.
The one who writes to you does not.

You just don't have any argument. You are too cowardly to say, 'Every sperm is sacred. I don't think my god likes abortion or women, so therefore I am going to impose my personal fucked-up beliefs on the rest of the population, even though no one has ever forced me to have an abortion, and no one is saying it should be compulsory for everyone'. Btw. It's not 'on demand'. It's 'on request'.

[Walker]

Sure. Based on that nonsense people are no different than animals, and women don't have access to abortion on demand.

Living in your heads, not reality.

The one you write to exists in your mind.
The one who writes to you does not.

You just don't have any argument. You are too cowardly to say, 'Every sperm is sacred. I don't think my god likes abortion or women, so therefore I am going to impose my personal fucked-up beliefs on the rest of the population, even though no one has ever forced me to have an abortion, and no one is saying it should be compulsory for everyone'. Btw. It's not 'on demand'. It's 'on request'.

In the United States, abortion is legal even though not by the people. It is legal based on the will of only five people. Abortion is not legal based on the legislative process.

That's worth a big pause for consideration right there. And that's about the only topic relevant to reality in the thread, other than the reality of some personal beliefs and prejudices rattling around in some heads.

Those who oppose abortion consider the fetus to be a stage in the development of human life. There is much evidence to support this. And by terminating that life process you are, as you say, imposing your personal fucked-up beliefs on a life form that has yet to develop its own voice.

Abortion is legal in the U.S. Get that through your thick skull. Your spew that you call "argument" is nothing but moot spew.

Tack on the VT name and call it an adult beverage or a garage band.

VT Moot Spew. Rhymes with Good Luck U.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUspLVStPbk

[Ferdi]

Re Walker'

Re " Walker's on Fri Jun 24, 2016 8:59 am. Life begins at conception. It can be witnessed as a flash of light."
Must be the Holy Spirit enlightening you.
Life has no beginning, life is a label for an abstract.

Holy Spirit. Aren't you the cute little abstraction.

Bright flash of light marks incredible moment life begins when sperm meets egg
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2016 ... ns-when-s/

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Thanks for the http://www.tele. Those sparks are chemistry.