Feminist Fantasy

[Nick_A]

vege wrote:

Not anti-christian, anti-kristian. I don't detect anything 'christian' in what you write, just a nasty pervert who hates women and non-kristians. Yes, islam treats women like shit. It's a revolting, disgusting ideology and it's getting worse and worse the more your cuntry meddles with it. There. What else do you expect anyone on here to say about it?

Complete arrogant ignorance. Vege, you don't know what Christianity is and what distinguishes it from Christendom. You actually sanction abuse of women because of what you call meddling. You would ptobably hear of a girl raped by a Sharia follower coming home from party and say she probably had it coming because of what she wore. What is it about this site that attracts such a callous attitude towards women? A person has to read this stuff to believe it.There is almost something inhuman about these reactions

[vegetariantaxidermy]

vege wrote:

Not anti-christian, anti-kristian. I don't detect anything 'christian' in what you write, just a nasty pervert who hates women and non-kristians. Yes, islam treats women like shit. It's a revolting, disgusting ideology and it's getting worse and worse the more your cuntry meddles with it. There. What else do you expect anyone on here to say about it?

Complete arrogant ignorance. Vege, you don't know what Christianity is and what distinguishes it from Christendom. You actually sanction abuse of women because of what you call meddling. You would ptobably hear of a girl raped by a Sharia follower coming home from party and say she probably had it coming because of what she wore. What is it about this site that attracts such a callous attitude towards women? A person has to read this stuff to believe it.There is almost something inhuman about these reactions

Pathetic troll. Keep giggling. You are only trying to annoy everyone with your baseless accusations and perverted fantasies. A reason isn't a justification. And stop calling yourself a christian. You are a hypocritical fraud.

[Nick_A]

Vege wrote:

Pathetic troll. Keep giggling. You are only trying to annoy everyone with your baseless accusations and perverted fantasies. A reason isn't a justification. And stop calling yourself a christian. You are a hypocritical fraud.

Vege is a sadistic fool. How else to explain such nastiness. He finds it annoying when someone raises a questioned asked by many now: why do feminists especially those who are social and political activists ignore the abuse of women by sharia? Do they ignore it because they find it exciting? Do they ignore it because they are afraid of being attacked in response? Do they ignore it because they find it politically and/or financially beneficial to do so? A sane person would contemplate this question. Not here. What satisfaction do these posters get from attacking a question even a liberal such as Bill Maher finds important? Who could do this other than sadistic fools? Anyone capable of normal compassion would find it impossible.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Vege wrote:

Pathetic troll. Keep giggling. You are only trying to annoy everyone with your baseless accusations and perverted fantasies. A reason isn't a justification. And stop calling yourself a christian. You are a hypocritical fraud.

Vege is a sadistic fool. How else to explain such nastiness. He finds it annoying when someone raises a questioned asked by many now: why do feminists especially those who are social and political activists ignore the abuse of women by sharia? Do they ignore it because they find it exciting? Do they ignore it because they are afraid of being attacked in response? Do they ignore it because they find it politically and/or financially beneficial to do so? A sane person would contemplate this question. Not here. What satisfaction do these posters get from attacking a question even a liberal such as Bill Maher finds important? Who could do this other than sadistic fools? Anyone capable of normal compassion would find it impossible.

Go and ask them then. I don't know what they think, (whoever 'they' are). You could try joining Atheism+. It's run by the self-proclaimed 'radical feminists' I think you are referring to. Good luck with them.

[FlashDangerpants]

Don't send him to converse with lots of women. You saw that bit about ...

The trouble is that being subservient they will no longer have the weak men to dominate anymore.

We know what that is code for. We know he couldn't handle that conversation.

[Arising_uk]

... You would ptobably hear of a girl raped by a Sharia follower coming home from party and say she probably had it coming because of what she wore. ...

Let me get this straight, you agree that women can wear what they wish, free from sexual advances by men. Have you written to your Christian brethren about this as many appear to not agree with this position.

[Nick_A]

Arising wrote

Let me get this straight, you agree that women can wear what they wish, free from sexual advances by men. Have you written to your Christian brethren about this as many appear to not agree with this position.

No. Freedom allows women to dress as they see fit and shouldn't be raped on that basis. However sustained freedom also requires that some women reflect human quality through how they present themselves. Sustained Freedom requires voluntary obligations and there are a minority of women who respect and honer these obligations which further societal freedom and human character.

Some men sense this and consider women of quality to be the "marrying kind" while the others are good for the one night stands they invite. Neither should be raped.

[Arising_uk]

...
No. Freedom allows women to dress as they see fit and shouldn't be raped on that basis. However sustained freedom also requires that some women reflect human quality through how they present themselves. Sustained Freedom requires voluntary obligations and there are a minority of women who respect and honer these obligations which further societal freedom and human character. ...

LMFAO!!

Some men sense this and consider women of quality to be the "marrying kind" while the others are good for the one night stands they invite. Neither should be raped.

And these men are the same ones who'd cheat on the 'women of quality' they married for the one-night stand.

[FlashDangerpants]

Sustained Freedom requires voluntary obligations and there are a minority of women who respect and honer these obligations which further societal freedom and human character.

Some men sense this and consider women of quality to be the "marrying kind" while the others are good for the one night stands they invite.

Women should 'choose' to dress modestly if they don't want to face social ruin through bad reputation?

[Nick_A]

Arising wrote: LMFAO!

People like Arisng cannot appreciate how some women can sense the value of objective quality both in society and in their own being. They don't like to cheapen it in their dress or in their attitudes. Those like Arising prefer to ridicule them. There is no way to respond to these attacks. A person either values and supports what these women of high emotional understanding offer humanity as a whole or they don't. Arising and I have different paths.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Arising wrote: LMFAO!

People like Arisng cannot appreciate how some women can sense the value of objective quality both in society and in their own being. They don't like to cheapen it in their dress or in their attitudes. Those like Arising prefer to ridicule them. There is no way to respond to these attacks. A person either values and supports what these women of high emotional understanding offer humanity as a whole or they don't. Arising and I have different paths.

So says the man who has rape fantasies.

[FlashDangerpants]

some women can sense the value of objective quality both in society and in their own being.

Is this your coy way of saying that ladies should observe formalistic social conventions in order not to be thought ill of by people such as you?

After all, it is your prudish judgment they are sensing as 'objective quality' here.

[Nick_A]

FDP wrote:

Is this your coy way of saying that ladies should observe formalistic social conventions in order not to be thought ill of by people such as you?

After all, it is your prudish judgment they are sensing as 'objective quality' here.

Many women ACT in a way to give an impression of objective quality. A minority don't act. They are reflecting higher emotional understanding. When one feels quality there is no need to fake it through formal socialistic conventions. They are just being real.

[FlashDangerpants]

And what is Nick_A's recommendation for discovering these women who are "reflecting higher emotional understanding". How does Nick tell them apart from those who are merely "acting" just as they do?

[Nick_A]

FDP wrote:

And what is Nick_A's recommendation for discovering these women who are "reflecting higher emotional understanding". How does Nick tell them apart from those who are merely "acting" just as they do?

I am not the best judge. As an old girlfriend once remarked; I am gullible as far as women are concerned. However, even though I can be fooled, I can still appreciate the idea theoretically.

If you have seen the movie "Beauty and the Beast, understanding what I mean will be a lot easier

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0101414/plotsummary

• Belle is a girl who is dissatisfied with life in a small provincial French town, constantly trying to fend off the misplaced "affections" of conceited Gaston. The Beast is a prince who was placed under a spell because he could not love. A wrong turn taken by Maurice, Belle's father, causes the two to meet.
- Written by Tim Pickett <quetzal@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au>
• Prince Adam was cursed to a beast form by Enchantress who saw no love in his arrogant heart for others. The one way he could break the spell was to learn to love another and earn her love in return before the last petal from his enchanted rose fell, which would bloom until his twenty-first birthday. But who could ever learn to love a beast? Ten years later, Maurice, an inventor from a nearby village, becomes lost in the woods and seeks shelter in the Beast's castle, the Beast imprisons him for trespassing. His daughter Belle, a bookworm who dreams of life outside her provincial village, finds him trapped in the castle and offers her place instead. The Beast accepts with a promise she'll remain in the castle forever. In the beginning Belle views him as nothing more than a monster, he views her as difficult and stubborn. But the two soon taste the bitter-sweetness of finding you can change and learning you were wrong.

Gaston is the typical physicially attractive shallow and superficial male. All the normal women love him because they are the same. Belle represents the woman of inner quality which always attracts the superficial. So Gaston is always after Belle and Belle wants to escape the prison of superficiality. (Plato's cave) Her inner quality enables emotional understanding which transforms the Beast back to its original nature. This is what women of inner quality can do. They can awaken our species to remember its vaue, its origin..Naturally they are few and far between

The act is always revealed in both men and women through hypocrisy. This thread is about feminist hypocrisy.