Feminist Fantasy

[Arising_uk]

The OP asks: "why so many women look the other way on Muslim attempts to introduce Sharia law into America. ...

You really need to stop reading Fux News. There is no need for Muslims to do this as like the Jews they can just live by it anyway. Of course it puts them against what their prophet said as they are supposed to not break the laws of the land they are living in. But by and large you ignore that this is the least of womens worries in America and the only reason why you are showing faux-concern(and it is faux as you yourself have said you are not concerned with the vastly larger abuse reported by women in your country) is because you have a political and religious agenda. So your OP is a trojan-horse and should be in the politics section not the gender one, although given you think sexual rape fantasies means people wish to have the actuality could be cause for a discussion about a certain type of male.

[FlashDangerpants]

But all you are doing here is demeaning real human suffering through silly accusations.

Are you blind to your own abject hypocrisy?

We all despise you because you worked hard to earn it.

[Nick_A]

FDP wrote: Are you blind to your own abject hypocrisy?

We all despise you because you worked hard to earn it.

Stendhal: 'All good reasoning causes offence.'

It has always been this way. It is why Socrates and Jesus had to be killed for example. They had to be despised. If not, their reasoning and mission would have been flawed. Of course I’m not in their category but to be despised in this way proves I’m doing something right. It is quite a compliment. Of course being despised for opposing and questioning tolerance for the blatant abuse of women by Sharia seems ridiculous. It should be just a human compassionate reaction. But not with this crew. The narrow-mindedness and heartlessness of agenda driven people though now considered normal is also unnatural. Scary stuff.

[Arising_uk]

... Scary stuff.

Only because you're not used to talking to those who can see you for what you are.
p.s.
Socrates chose to kill himself.

[FlashDangerpants]

That's some very high quality self congratulation you got there Nick. Having that for your only talent is possibly self defeating though.

[Dalek Prime]

Whilst not the USA, they had considered allowing Sharia as an alternative to family courts, as the Jewish population of Toronto had been using religious law for some time. It was soundly rejected, and all groups.are now.under civil family court. So I don't see the reality of your OP here. No one is taking up Sharia.

[Nick_A]

FDP wrote:

That's some very high quality self congratulation you got there Nick. Having that for your only talent is possibly self defeating though.

Perhaps not being a willing slave to hypocrisy may appear self defeating. Perhaps it is better to ignore the feminist's enjoying their fantasies or power trips at the expense of abused women. Jesus offered another approach. Who know why.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+23

Matthew 23New International Version (NIV)

A Warning Against Hypocrisy

23 Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples: 2 “The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. 3 So you must be careful to do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach. 4 They tie up heavy, cumbersome loads and put them on other people’s shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them.

Don't blame Jesus. He never had the opportunity for a solid secular education. Who could really expect these current political and social activists to practice what they preach? Absurd. The only important thing is the agenda. The ends justify the means. If the abuse of women by Sharia is ignored either through fantasy or a power trip, in the immortal words of Hillary: "What difference at this point does it make?" The agenda is served. the Great Beast smiles its approval.

[Arising_uk]

Perhaps not being a willing slave to hypocrisy may appear self defeating. ...

But you are a hypocrite as this is not about abused women but your beef with Islam and Feminism. As you clearly stated you made no attempt to address the much larger plight of sexual violence towards American, presumably Christian, women in America.

Perhaps it is better to ignore the feminist's enjoying their fantasies or power trips at the expense of abused women. ...

Prehaps we should have just ignored you and your little games at the expense of abused women.

Jesus offered another approach. Who know why.

Not you certainly, don't fancy being in your shoes when you have to be judged about this one.

A Warning Against Hypocrisy ...

We don't need it as we know one when we see one.

[Nick_A]

Arising wrote

But you are a hypocrite as this is not about abused women but your beef with Islam and Feminism. As you clearly stated you made no attempt to address the much larger plight of sexual violence towards American, presumably Christian, women in America.

The topic is about women intentionally abused by Sharia law. Politically and socially active women who profess for women's rights and needs are strangely silent about it. Agenda driven people like Arising consider women abused by Sharia to be politically incorrect.

Those like Arising are only concerned with particular forms of abuse. The women suffering from the abuse of Sharia are interfering with their agenda so should not be mentioned. They are politically incorrect. As such they should all just go to hell. Those like Arising don't respect women. they only respect women in the context of their agenda. If they interfere with the agenda, ignore them. They'll soon be dead.

[Arising_uk]

The topic is about women intentionally abused by Sharia law. Politically and socially active women who profess for women's rights and needs are strangely silent about it. ...

Not over here they're not and I doubt they aren't where you are, it's just that you won't look. Once again you ignore that it is hardly an issue compared to the massive intentional abuse of presumably Christian American women by presumably Christian American men. Why is that?

Agenda driven people like Arising consider women abused by Sharia to be politically incorrect.

Not so, I've opposed and challenged face-to-face many advocates of patriarchal theist religion.

Those like Arising are only concerned with particular forms of abuse. The women suffering from the abuse of Sharia are interfering with their agenda so should not be mentioned. They are politically incorrect. As such they should all just go to hell. Those like Arising don't respect women. they only respect women in the context of their agenda. If they interfere with the agenda, ignore them. They'll soon be dead.

Nope, I'm concerned with the abuse of women in general. It is you who are playing religious politics with the suffering of women and I don't envy you your judgement time as from what I gather your 'God' looks ill upon the hypocrite.

[Nick_A]

Bill Maher asked Gloria Steinem why anti woman sharia law isn’t a feminist issue

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/maher-to-glo ... ist-issue/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aGaJMvtk3A

Bill Maher spoke with iconic feminist Gloria Steinem tonight about a cause he thinks more feminists should care about: radical Islamic law.
He brought up how horribly women are treated in the Muslim world and asked why it isn’t a bigger feminist issue. Steinem argued that it actually is, pointing to feminists in Muslim nations attempting to push reforms.
She said that “all monotheism is a problem,” but Maher jumped in to say that Islamic nations are particularly horrible to women and bad on women’s rights…………………..

Gloria passes the buck just like Arising does. They sadly and coldly ignore blatant abuse by blaming others. All this either out of fantasy or to profit politically and/or financially. It really is disgusting. How can people sink so low? If one of these people witnessed a traffic accident which included a politically incorrect person they would just walk on by saying “why bother” Accidents caused by careless people happen all the time. We must deal with the big picture. Who cares if they die. We need to focus on money for traffic control.

[Arising_uk]

Gloria passes the buck just like Arising does. ...

No I don't, I'm just pointing out that you don't give two tosses about the abuse Christian American women are suffering, you admitted as much.

They sadly and coldly ignore blatant abuse by blaming others. ...

Which others have I blamed? You are making this all up.

All this either out of fantasy or to profit politically and/or financially. ...

Well I don't know how you are benefiting financially from this but I wouldn't be surprised. All I say is that you ignoring the plight of Christian American women in your country and concentrating on a tiny minority is evidence that your 'concern' for the abuse of Muslim women is politically and religiously motivated and not to do with any actual concern about abuse towards women.

It really is disgusting. ...

It is.

How can people sink so low? ...

You tell me as I'm flabbergasted that a purported Christian can turn a blind-eye to the abuse of American women.

If one of these people witnessed a traffic accident which included a politically incorrect person they would just walk on by saying “why bother” Accidents caused by careless people happen all the time. We must deal with the big picture. Who cares if they die. We need to focus on money for traffic control.

And the big picture is that in your country the main abuse of women is toward Christian women but you wish to ignore this? Your concern about Sharia Law and the abuse that happens to some Muslim women because of this is a facade. I really don't fancy your chances before your Lord on your judgement day.

[Nick_A]

Arising, you are obviously either violently anti-Christian or politically motivated. No one can be this cold and ignorant without such an agenda. There is nothing in the Christian religion that sanctions the abuse of women. Yet it is openly supported by Sharia law which is practiced in the homes. How many threads have you begun on the abuse of women sanctioned by the Christian tradition? I’d like to post on one. Of course you haven’t. It would never enter even your head because the idea is preposterous.

You have no idea how sleazy you appear with your defense of sharia abuse by changing the subject. Women are always abused. The point is that normally it is opposed. In the case of Sharia it is condoned through silence even by feminists who supposedly care about women’s issues. Even Bill Maher, a liberal shill, is disgusted by it.

Your attitude is a disgrace. You should really try to grow up.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Arising, you are obviously either violently anti-Christian or politically motivated. No one can be this cold and ignorant without such an agenda. There is nothing in the Christian religion that sanctions the abuse of women. Yet it is openly supported by Sharia law which is practiced in the homes. How many threads have you begun on the abuse of women sanctioned by the Christian tradition? I’d like to post on one. Of course you haven’t. It would never enter even your head because the idea is preposterous.

You have no idea how sleazy you appear with your defense of sharia abuse by changing the subject. Women are always abused. The point is that normally it is opposed. In the case of Sharia it is condoned through silence even by feminists who supposedly care about women’s issues. Even Bill Maher, a liberal shill, is disgusted by it.

Your attitude is a disgrace. You should really try to grow up.

Not anti-christian, anti-kristian. I don't detect anything 'christian' in what you write, just a nasty pervert who hates women and non-kristians. Yes, islam treats women like shit. It's a revolting, disgusting ideology and it's getting worse and worse the more your cuntry meddles with it. There. What else do you expect anyone on here to say about it?

[Arising_uk]

Arising, you are obviously either violently anti-Christian or politically motivated. No one can be this cold and ignorant without such an agenda. There is nothing in the Christian religion that sanctions the abuse of women. Yet it is openly supported by Sharia law which is practiced in the homes. How many threads have you begun on the abuse of women sanctioned by the Christian tradition? I’d like to post on one. Of course you haven’t. It would never enter even your head because the idea is preposterous. ...

Not what I'm talking about matey, you are using the abuse of women as a political tool for your own ends, not out of any care for the women as you do no campaigning for the vastly greater number of American women who are being abused, a fair chunk who, I'd guess, would be Christians.

You have no idea how sleazy you appear with your defense of sharia abuse by changing the subject. ...

I'm not defending it, unless of course you are one of those Yanks who think if you're not with me you're against me, I'm just not joining in with the obvious religious and political agenda that drives you, it also helps that you are obviously a misogynistic pervert.

Women are always abused. ...

So that's okay then?

The point is that normally it is opposed. ...

But you don't do you.

In the case of Sharia it is condoned through silence even by feminists who supposedly care about women’s issues. Even Bill Maher, a liberal shill, is disgusted by it. ...

The reason why is that it's a red-herring that right-wing godbothering perverts like you want to use to bash a very small minority in your country. I know quite a few Muslims in my country and none treat their wives any worse than anyone else and in many cases much better. Your examples are pretty much to do with ignorance and culture and such men will be beating and raping their wives regardless. Take your country, Christian presumably, not long ago your courts would not have recognized marital rape and your priests and people like you would have said nothing, just like you say nothing about the vastly greater amount of abuse that is being meted out to presumably Christian women right now.

Your attitude is a disgrace. You should really try to grow up.

Piss off pervert. I look forward to you meeting your Lord for your judgement.