Reflex wrote:Wow. And I thought I was taking too many pain pills. I think Hobbes lost it.
I am going to assume that your inability to address my last two carefully consider posts means that you are just one more ignorant twat lurking on the Forum.
On the other hand, you might not be a complete idiot so take another look:
POST 1.
Spinoza was an atheist, who feared assassination, murder and had to flee his own religious community and live in obscurity writing clandestine tracts published sub-rosa.
He was keen to talk about the deterministic nature of the universe, but rather than declare for god, he declared for nature. Rather than assigning god as nature, he was in fact declaring nature as god. Nature what was determined, disinterested, without needs, fears or desires or personality.
He's been mistakenly called a pantheist, and that tends to help the theist accept that a man of such enormous intellect was capable of dismissing the usual god, but the theist cannot clings to some comfort in the thought that he still has some kinda god, when this was not the case.
There is no doubt that for his time Spinoza was publicly denounced as an atheist had had no time for religion or blind faith. All religion is organised superstition.
As for "Pantheism", Spinoza's "god" does not really conform to either definition;
1.
a doctrine which identifies God with the universe, or regards the universe as a manifestation of God.
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the worship or tolerance of many gods.
Don't take my word for it. Consult the world's authority.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZPzivgc7aQ
You've only to glance through Ethics and his 'proof of God" to know clearly that he is talking about something else entirely.
As for scripture the chain of command for such writings does not lead to god but wholly to the mind of men; and there is stops. God is neutral morally. God has no plan, nor any rules. All events happen necessarily.
POST 2.
Indeed, and what do you think "truth" has to do with reality? And what do you think Philosophy can add to that which natural philosophy has already spoken on?
What makes you think that you can do anything more than describe the universe? In what way is it possible that it contains 'truth" - or do you have a more mature view on what truth is?
Still, it remains that you have demonstrated continually that you are a self-important dick who cannot engage in meaningful and respectful exchanges with others -- that's what I see -- so you're one of the people I avoid. That means I'm smart... not hateful or evil. You will think what you must to continue stroking yourself as that's clearly your favorite thing to do.
