Is the need of salvation an evil lie from religions?

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Philosophy Explorer wrote:Your divine guidance has failed you because you misspelled the first fulfill.
You've obviously never read the KJV Revelation 17:17.
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bobevenson wrote:
Philosophy Explorer wrote:Your divine guidance has failed you because you misspelled the first fulfill.
You've obviously never read the KJV Revelation 17:17.
Irrelevant. Your so-called divine guidance still has failed you.

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Philosophy Explorer wrote:
bobevenson wrote:
Philosophy Explorer wrote:Your divine guidance has failed you because you misspelled the first fulfill.
You've obviously never read the KJV Revelation 17:17.
Irrelevant. Your so-called divine guidance still has failed you.

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bobevenson wrote: You've obviously never read the KJV Revelation 17:17.
The KJV is not the only translation of the Bible, and not the most accurate. It was good at the time, but more accurate information has been discovered since then.
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bobevenson wrote:It's tough to admit you're wrong after shooting off your mouth, isn't it?
Looking in that mirror, aren't you? :lol:

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Greta wrote:A very long time ago, long before religions learned how to play manipulative games, the idea of salvation most likely stemmed from the simple need for most people to work extremely hard to survive. So you save yourself with sustained effort and laziness results in suffering.

In the end it's the idea of salvation is just one of many ways that bosses throughout history have used to control and push their underlings.
I and my favorite Bishop agree that it is all about creating the false guilt you are talking about to bring the gullible sheeple to heel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SF6I5VSZVqc
The biggest "evil" is perhaps scaring children with Hades.

The way I see it, if one aims to learn and grow in life then they are doing just fine, no matter what their metaphysical beliefs, or lack.
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bobevenson wrote: You've obviously never read the KJV Revelation 17:17.
The KJV is not the only translation of the Bible, and not the most accurate. It was good at the time, but more accurate information has been discovered since then.
The KJV is the only authentic translation, being written by 47 scholars and edited by 12, corresponding to the beast line of the Ouzo Cross, which begins at reference point 47 and extends 12 units (see "The Ouzo Prophecy").
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Greatest I am wrote:
bobevenson wrote:The Church of Ouzo doesn't claim a need for salvation, but does offer it in a game.
Then there is no hell in your Church of Ouzo.

Good. The world has enough lies already.

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Hell is produced by our institutional false prophets that prevent the fruition of Revelation 17:17 (a description of the beast with seven heads and ten horns in chapter and verse): "For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled."
God has no will. At least not the supernatural God. Myths cannot have a will.

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Greta wrote:
Greatest I am wrote:
Greta wrote:A very long time ago, long before religions learned how to play manipulative games, the idea of salvation most likely stemmed from the simple need for most people to work extremely hard to survive. So you save yourself with sustained effort and laziness results in suffering.

In the end it's the idea of salvation is just one of many ways that bosses throughout history have used to control and push their underlings.
I and my favorite Bishop agree that it is all about creating the false guilt you are talking about to bring the gullible sheeple to heel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SF6I5VSZVqc
The biggest "evil" is perhaps scaring children with Hades.

The way I see it, if one aims to learn and grow in life then they are doing just fine, no matter what their metaphysical beliefs, or lack.
Metaphysical often refers to an unseen spirit world and most of those who have that as a part of their religious thinking always seem to have a carrot and stick theology which includes punishment for not being as perfect as their Gods ask.

If the neophyte sticks to just the questioning of where knowledge comes from, then fine, but if he brings in the supernatural to his thinking then I would not agree with your view.

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bobevenson wrote:
thedoc wrote:
bobevenson wrote: You've obviously never read the KJV Revelation 17:17.
The KJV is not the only translation of the Bible, and not the most accurate. It was good at the time, but more accurate information has been discovered since then.
The KJV is the only authentic translation, being written by 47 scholars and edited by 12, corresponding to the beast line of the Ouzo Cross, which begins at reference point 47 and extends 12 units (see "The Ouzo Prophecy").
Only a fool would think that any Bible is an accurate rendition of anything related to a God.

It begins with a talking serpent and a son murdering God but if you think you can see accuracy in talking animals then carry on. Just do not expect respect from those who can think and know a myth from an accurate work of fiction.

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Greatest I am wrote:God has no will. Regards, DL
Do you claim to be an authority on the subject?
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Greatest I am wrote:Only a fool would think that any Bible is an accurate rendition of anything related to a God.
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Do you claim to be an authority on the subject?
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Greatest I am wrote:God has no will. Regards, DL
Do you claim to be an authority on the subject?
Absolutely.

Anything supernatural or in the fantasy realm cannot have any will other than what people say it has in terms of will.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ez6wfJWVCeI

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Greatest I am wrote:
bobevenson wrote:
Greatest I am wrote:God has no will. Regards, DL
Do you claim to be an authority on the subject?
Absolutely.
OK, I didn't realize you had YouTube to back you up.
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bobevenson wrote:I didn't realize you had YouTube to back you up.
Which is better than what's backing you up :lol: :lol: :lol:

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