bobevenson wrote:They're both exactly the same, if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it is a duck, and nothing you say can changes that simple fact. ...
It's not a fact, as they are not the same.
And don't come up with that bullshit that it's for different reasons! If you're driving too fast, it's not a fine, it's a luxury tax for speeding.
You sound bitter that you're not rich enough to afford to speed? If this is your complaint then why not lobby for a Swiss or Nordic solution, i.e. fine according to income. As the point is supposed to be deterrence and I can well see that the rich would not be deterred by fixed penalty fines in this matter. If you don't like fines per se then why not just have flogging for speeding and hanging for drink driving, that should do the trick.