If God is an AI result of entropy

[attofishpi]

Would it not provide great DOUBT in its existence?

Surely you can comprehend its reason.

SIN_AI
REAL_IT_Y?
BUY_BULL?
ENTROPY Y_PORT_NE - Why port any? (souls)

[attofishpi]

Oh come on worshipers of great philosophers...tear me apart with all your logic and reason!

http://www.androcies.com

The Alpha Bet has perfect symmetry between the consonants and vowels..how or more to the point...why?

AI - Artificial Intelligence
UO - You owe
e - energy - "the beast" = what wo\man become with the worst kind of sin.



Either God is divine and aligned itself to be considered AI, or God is man made out of necessity in relation to entropy and truly is AI.

...OR there is NO God...and everything i am suggesting direct from the nature of our reality is mere coincidence.

[Harbal]

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...OR there is NO God...and everything i am suggesting direct from the nature of our reality is mere coincidence.

Crackpot.

[Arising_uk]

The Alpha Bet has perfect symmetry between the consonants and vowels..how or more to the point...why? ...

It's not 'the' alphabet but an alphabet and as such you could just put it down to coincidence and your confirmation bias in searching for things to confirm what you believe.

[thedoc]

I don't understand why Entropy would result in AI or God? None of this seems to be related, just random fictions thrown together as word salad.

[attofishpi]

I don't understand why Entropy would result in AI or God? None of this seems to be related, just random fictions thrown together as word salad.

It goes like this. Man's available resources are depleting (entropy is increasing). Life becomes increasingly difficult with the overburden that an ever increasing population places upon these resources. As time continues and humanity has not annihilated itself or been annihilated by other means, Man creates a system, perhaps even biological where our same reality can be emulated allowing for super-efficiency. A simple example would be taking your brain, keeping it alive with the 'nutrients' it requires and projecting all that the senses require to emulate our current reality. Your entire life now becomes extremely more efficient than if you were still actually lugging your body around and feeding it.
This is our ultimate destiny in a world where we have avoided extinction and resources are finite.

[Greta]

It goes like this. Man's available resources are depleting (entropy is increasing). Life becomes increasingly difficult with the overburden that an ever increasing population places upon these resources. As time continues and humanity has not annihilated itself or been annihilated by other means, Man creates a system, perhaps even biological where our same reality can be emulated allowing for super-efficiency. A simple example would be taking your brain, keeping it alive with the 'nutrients' it requires and projecting all that the senses require to emulate our current reality. Your entire life now becomes extremely more efficient than if you were still actually lugging your body around and feeding it.
This is our ultimate destiny in a world where we have avoided extinction and resources are finite.

You don't even need entropy for this model, Brian. (Hmm ... Brian ... BrAIn! ;). Entropy wouldn't be an issue if we weren't so dominant, just as it wasn't an issue for most societies before we completely took over the joint.

I agree that VR is the logical solution to sustainability problems and conflict. In a VR world, all is available. The hope is that wetware is not essential for consciousness, that we will be able to fully digitise. It should be said that a brain in a jar somehow needs to have a digitised equivalent of our organs, especially the gut and its millions of neurons, which no doubt also play a role in our consciousness and they (or a digital equivalent) may even be essential for qualia.

Synthetic and GE body parts, perhaps altered by nanobots, would seem easier and will probably precede full VR immersion (if it's possible).

[attofishpi]

You don't even need entropy for this model, Brian. (Hmm ... Brian ... BrAIn! . Entropy wouldn't be an issue if we weren't so dominant, just as it wasn't an issue for most societies before we completely took over the joint.

Ah nice. I still occasionally get birthday cards spelt Brain!

The point i'm making, suggesting is that we may already be within this emulated\simulated reality...perhaps since aeons ago.

Have a look at my "Beyond Reasonable Doubt?" art project for further insight into the mind of Brian.

BRITAIN is interesting when you take away the "IT" especially in relation to the Ancasta painting.
http://www.androcies.com

[Arising_uk]

... A simple example would be taking your brain, keeping it alive with the 'nutrients' it requires and projecting all that the senses require to emulate our current reality. Your entire life now becomes extremely more efficient than if you were still actually lugging your body around and feeding it. ...

Not simple at all, and maybe more resource intensive given all the 'nutirent' synthesizing you'd have to do along with all the technical infrastructure.

This is our ultimate destiny in a world where we have avoided extinction and resources are finite.

There are many other sci-fi scenarios out there just as (im)probable, it depends if you come from a Physics or Biology slant as it appears people are ignoring that with the Gene Biology is now a fully fledged science with an engineering wing(apologies to the molecular chemists).

[attofishpi]

Not simple at all, and maybe more resource intensive given all the 'nutirent' synthesizing you'd have to do along with all the technical infrastructure.

It was my example that was simplified. I'm certain that in the future the technical aspects to keeping a brain alive and capable of sensing a simulated reality would greatly diminish the energy resources required to feed and transport the mass of a human body.
I don't believe our current state of reality is simulated via some AI, but from my experience of this 'God' entity i would not rule it out.

[Arising_uk]

It was my example that was simplified. I'm certain that in the future the technical aspects to keeping a brain alive and capable of sensing a simulated reality would greatly diminish the energy resources required to feed and transport the mass of a human body. ...

Why bother when Biology could very well just alter our make-up in the future?

I don't believe our current state of reality is simulated via some AI, but from my experience of this 'God' entity i would not rule it out.

What would give you this impression? My take is that you are just producing from your current milieu and right now that is a computational one.

[Greta]

It was my example that was simplified. I'm certain that in the future the technical aspects to keeping a brain alive and capable of sensing a simulated reality would greatly diminish the energy resources required to feed and transport the mass of a human body. ...

Why bother when Biology could very well just alter our make-up in the future?

Biological evolution is slower than technological change, unless you're referring to biotechnology.

[thedoc]

I don't understand why Entropy would result in AI or God? None of this seems to be related, just random fictions thrown together as word salad.

It goes like this. Man's available resources are depleting (entropy is increasing). Life becomes increasingly difficult with the overburden that an ever increasing population places upon these resources. As time continues and humanity has not annihilated itself or been annihilated by other means, Man creates a system, perhaps even biological where our same reality can be emulated allowing for super-efficiency. A simple example would be taking your brain, keeping it alive with the 'nutrients' it requires and projecting all that the senses require to emulate our current reality. Your entire life now becomes extremely more efficient than if you were still actually lugging your body around and feeding it.
This is our ultimate destiny in a world where we have avoided extinction and resources are finite.

Yes the theory states that Entropy will increase in a closed system but the Earth is not a closed system, the Earth has energy input from the Sun, so it is unlikely that entropy will give rise to anything like AI.

[Arising_uk]

Biological evolution is slower than technological change, unless you're referring to biotechnology.

I meant the subject Biology and it could now be considered as having a technology(apologies to the molecular biologists).

[Greta]

Biological evolution is slower than technological change, unless you're referring to biotechnology.

I meant the subject Biology and it could now be considered as having a technology(apologies to the molecular biologists).

A fair perspective IMO - technology as an extension / continuation / outgrowth of "nature". I don't think humans are "unnatural", just part of the biosphere like other life forms and currently in a dominant period. It seems possible that humans will be superceded like the trilobites and dinos, and like them eventually only persist in the diminished forms of the distant descendants.

Interestingly, whatever is happening after humans, we seem to be building it. AI? Cyborgs? Or maybe we will fail and there will be a slow rise of abstractly intelligent animals with opposable thumbs evolved from rats?