Jaded Sage wrote:Hobbes: One definition causes violence the other does not. I can see your prejudice will prevent me from making headway with you. Good day.
You are continuing to talk nonsense.
Please indicate a re-examination of "Prayer", and why the current meaning is inadequate.
Jaded Sage wrote:
I'm ignoring anyone who doesn't want to comtribute.
So you've been ignoring me when I wasn't even here?
Like the word "god", it seems the concepts of prayer and worship cannot avoid reflecting so many meanings/purposes that evolving and varied humans will assign. It may seem like the "intended meanings" have been tainted... but for some people, the originating beliefs are tainted. So the concepts either get discarded or reapplied to things that fit with individual beliefs. Personally, I do not like the concept of "worship" at all, as it seems to require an "other" of higher stature to bow down to and be (perhaps) obsessed by... which doesn't make sense in my own spiritual view. The word "prayer" however, (for me) could mean meditative communication with all that is. So I can relate to that.
Belief in gods -- and people's relationship with them -- has been so varied. There's no reason for me to conclude that any particular current perspective will be unchanging or un-evolving. The ideas of prayer and worship may be absolutely meaningless on all levels in 200 years. To me, everything seems geared within the quality of presence in the moment (however you go about it). Experience it now... treasure it now... find meaning now... enjoy it now. Each, for ourselves. What we can share feels glorious... but I don't think we need to share to be vibrating complete.
Oh look Jaded Sage has hooked a fish. Sadly she fails to respond adequately with this;
I fail to see how an original concept can be tainted. Paul was discussing what this new faith was. He was essentially inventing it. Seeing as how he founded most of it, it is impossible he tainted it.
But I do think maybe there is something to the idea of obsession.
You also seem to be making the same mistake as the other two using the standard definition when I have demonstrated that there is a problem with the standard definition. If you if you can't get past that I'll have to ignore you too as I don't see what else you contribute.
.. and admitting failure of her own project, despite Lacewing throwing her a bone.
Obvious Leo wrote:I'm still sure the entire topic was an April Fool's day joke which nobody twigged to.
Now I'm feeling foolish for taking it seriously. I think they are only supposed to last till noon so if it was an April Fools joke it was breaking the rules.
Obvious Leo wrote:I'm still sure the entire topic was an April Fool's day joke which nobody twigged to.
Now I'm feeling foolish for taking it seriously. I think they are only supposed to last till noon so if it was an April Fools joke it was breaking the rules.
It was actually a full day late, mate, but you've now dealt me a crushing and utterly unexpected blow which makes me completely question my ability to judge the human animal. Are you truly trying to tell me that you were taking this topic seriously?? I weep for my loss, Yorkie.
Obvious Leo wrote: Are you truly trying to tell me that you were taking this topic seriously??
Whether I was or wasn't would depend on which of the two leaves me in the best light.
With all due respect I reckon it's a bit late in the day for you to start worrying about the persona you're projecting here, mate. You've staked out your territory as a bullshit spotter and now you're stuck with it.
Harbal, I notice you're looking the other direction now. I actually think this suits you better... as it shows that you're only partly engaged in all this entertaining nonsense.
Lacewing wrote:Harbal, I notice you're looking the other direction now. I actually think this suits you better... as it shows that you're only partly engaged in all this entertaining nonsense.
I think you may be paying rather too much attention to me, young lady, if you've noticed such a small detail. I'm not sure I'm comfortable with being scrutinised so closely, I can't help worrying that you may find something best left undiscovered.
Lacewing wrote:Harbal, I notice you're looking the other direction now. I actually think this suits you better... as it shows that you're only partly engaged in all this entertaining nonsense.
I think you may be paying rather too much attention to me, young lady, if you've noticed such a small detail. I'm not sure I'm comfortable with being scrutinised so closely, I can't help worrying that you may find something best left undiscovered.
As long as you're not posting full-body images... there's not much more for me to see. I relate to the expression of your avatar... so I guess that's why I notice. Kind of surprising, I admit.
Lacewing wrote:
As long as you're not posting full-body images... there's not much more for me to see. I relate to the expression of your avatar... so I guess that's why I notice. Kind of surprising, I admit.
Somebody suggested that it would look better the other way round so I tried it but I decided I prefered it how it was to start with so I changed it back. I didn't expect anyone to notice.
