WHY can't the religions bring the mankind forward ?

[Hobbes' Choice]

The creator cares for us always !

Marvellous, then I can forget about him!!
Whoo hoo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iV-mAoI5Sk

[Arising_uk]

OF COURSE THERE IS UNIMAGINABLE SUPERIOR LOGIC AND POWER ! ! !

Then you can't imagine it?

There may well be superior power but Logic is Logic and even 'God' has to follow it. That you think there is a superior one is just because you don't understand Logic.

Otherwise N O T H I N G would exist ! You are only m u c h too blind and corrupt and ill to be able to see it ! WAKE UP ! ( you are able to see

it , IF YOU REALLY WANT !

Have you thought that it might always have existed?

The creator of the universe has given the ability to you as he has given it to me !

And if there is no creator and the universe has always existed and always will, what then for you?

[manden]

Learn thinking ( exact simple ) logically !

[Hobbes' Choice]

Learn thinking ( exact simple ) logically !

God cannot be the first thing. Simple logic.
Intelligence and consciousness are complex and can only have emerged from aeons of evolved organisation. Simple logic.
Thus our skill of perception, thinking, and logic, can only have come late in the universe.
We have no reason to think that the universe began with intelligence, and every reason to suppose it cannot have.

Your skill at argumentation is poor.
Your logic is faulty,
And you intelligence is limited.
No one is convinced about your version of God; not even the Theists on the Forum.
QED : You are wasting your time.
My advise to you: go away and find a Forum that will listen to your demented ramblings.

Try this one: They'll love you.

http://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?P ... 7n5vahasv0&

[Lacewing]

Learn thinking ( exact simple ) logically !

You are such a foolish person. Why don't you take your own advice... go away and study it for another 50 years... and then come back when you realize how much you DON'T know, and when you respectfully understand that you shouldn't be bombarding everyone else with your ignorance?

Can you even HAVE two-way conversations... or can you ONLY make accusations and commandments at people? That's the first clue that you're a tool of nonsense from the limited scope of your own head.

[manden]

Who wants to be able to think with the unimaginable superior logic (and intelligence) as the real creator of the universe , must be completely

megalomaniac - like almost the whole mankind ( and especially you here ) !

[Dalek Prime]

PS. Would you care to know who else agrees with me? Another moron by the name of Aristotle, one of the founders of Western philosophy who, as it turns out, also happened to be an antinatalist..

Can you verify that with a reference?

I got that from a friends blog, unreferenced. But I did find similar here:

http://harpers.org/blog/2010/10/aristot ... f-silenus/

[Lacewing]

Who wants to be able to think with the unimaginable superior logic (and intelligence) as the real creator of the universe , must be completely
megalomaniac - like almost the whole mankind ( and especially you here ) !

Your words again describe only YOU, Manden. You are the megalomaniac who keeps telling all of us how to be, based on an unknowable and unimaginable god that you claim to know more of than anyone else. You continually project your own behavior, attitudes, and nonsense onto other people... accusing them of it... and it's ALL YOURS!

And the fact that you keep ranting at us even though we've told you that your madness is of no interest to us, shows how you are so self-absorbed in your own self-pleasuring (by raising yourself above others) that you'll seek out any audience to pleasure yourself in front of. It's really very sick.

[Hobbes' Choice]

PS. Would you care to know who else agrees with me? Another moron by the name of Aristotle, one of the founders of Western philosophy who, as it turns out, also happened to be an antinatalist..

Can you verify that with a reference?

I got that from a friends blog, unreferenced. But I did find similar here:

http://harpers.org/blog/2010/10/aristot ... f-silenus/

Thanks for the reference.
Believing there is a better place after you are dead, in distinction to the world of woes that Greeks loved to moan about, is not quite antinatalism, as such, but not far off.

[manden]

I pity you . But I cannot help you . I can only say the truth .

[thedoc]

Religions can't "bring Man forward" because they can't find their prophet.

But it seems that religions have no trouble finding their profit.

[JSS]

Religions can't "bring Man forward" because they can't find their prophet.

But it seems that religions have no trouble finding their profit.

You live in an era of vast deceit. Take care of choosing the guilty parties: "judge not lest..."

[Dalek Prime]

Thanks for the reference.
Believing there is a better place after you are dead, in distinction to the world of woes that Greeks loved to moan about, is not quite antinatalism, as such, but not far off.

Glad I could oblige.

In all fairness, it is antinatalism, as not being born is given preference, with living a brief life coming in second, according to him

...but for humans, the best for them is not to be born at all, not to partake of nature’s excellence; not to be is best, for both sexes. This should our choice, if choice we have; and the next to this is, when we are born, to die as soon as we can.

[thedoc]

I pity you . But I cannot help you . I can only say the truth .

Just curious Manden, is all this rambling you are doing on this forum helping you find your profit?

[manden]

I am a little bit tool of the creator . And the creator wants to help you ( and the mankind ) , but you let him N O T !