How best to see outside your own culture, beyond the ideas in vogue?

[Obvious Leo]

Biologist are concerned with the one in preference to the other. It's why they are called biologists.

This statement is false. Theoretical biology deals almost exclusively with molecular scale processes and molecules are not regarded as "living" matter by anybody.

Mention of vitalism is not only a childish straw man, but a significant insult. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Far from it. I try to ensure that all of my insults are precisely targeted and derive great satisfaction when they hit the bull's-eye. It was you who drew the distinction between living and non-living matter and I was merely pointing out that to a biologist no such distinction exists. If you wish to think otherwise then you're by no means alone and you'll find plenty of like mind in your local church.

[Hobbes' Choice]

Biologist are concerned with the one in preference to the other. It's why they are called biologists.

This statement is false. Theoretical biology deals almost exclusively with molecular scale processes and molecules are not regarded as "living" matter by anybody.

Mention of vitalism is not only a childish straw man, but a significant insult. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Far from it. I try to ensure that all of my insults are precisely targeted and derive great satisfaction when they hit the bull's-eye. It was you who drew the distinction between living and non-living matter and I was merely pointing out that to a biologist no such distinction exists. If you wish to think otherwise then you're by no means alone and you'll find plenty of like mind in your local church.

Not worthy