In a gay marriage, who would be the husband and who would be the wife?

[Philosophy Explorer]

Or maybe it doesn't matter.

PhilX

[Arising_uk]

What do you imagine the roles of husband and wife are?

[Philosophy Explorer]

What do you imagine the roles of husband and wife are?

In the US, women are paid at the rate of $.79 on the dollar that men make so that helps to define the breadwinner. I'd imagine that this would carry through in a gay marriage (for example living near your workplace). I've heard it said that the male in a gay relationship who penetrates would, in effect, be in the role of the husband while his male partner would be in the role of the wife (how this would work in a lesbian relationship I just have some guesses).

PhilX

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What do you imagine the roles of husband and wife are?

In the US, women are paid at the rate of $.79 on the dollar that men make so that helps to define the breadwinner.

In that case, it depends on whether they're two women or two men, doesn't it? If both partners in both marriages work, one household will be considerably better off than the other.

I'd imagine that this would carry through in a gay marriage (for example living near your workplace).

I don't think employers take commuting distance into consideration when deciding on a salary. Nor domestic roles, oddly enough. I think they pretty much pay whatever salary comes with the corporate position, regardless of the employee's carnal position.
At least, I've never seen that question on an application form. Have you?

[Hobbes' Choice]

The whole point of a gay marriage denies the idea of naturally assigned roles.
Heterosexuals could learn a lot here.

It's like the 1960s never happened man!

In a female gay marriage you have two "wives"; in male one, two 'husbands'. Guess what? They are all capable of washing the fucking dishes.

[Hobbes' Choice]

What do you imagine the roles of husband and wife are?

In the US, women are paid at the rate of $.79 on the dollar that men make so that helps to define the breadwinner.

PhilX

Explain this garbage!

[Philosophy Explorer]

What do you imagine the roles of husband and wife are?

In the US, women are paid at the rate of $.79 on the dollar that men make so that helps to define the breadwinner.

PhilX

Explain this garbage!

Look it up from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, then figure it out (hint, money talks).

PhilX

[Hobbes' Choice]

In the US, women are paid at the rate of $.79 on the dollar that men make so that helps to define the breadwinner.

PhilX

Explain this garbage!

Look it up from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, then figure it out (hint, money talks).

PhilX

You are just so fucking thick. There is no gender difference in a gay marriage as both partners are the same sex. So gender pay differences is not relevant to deciding who is the bread winning you bloody moron.

[Philosophy Explorer]

You are just so fucking thick. There is no gender difference in a gay marriage as both partners are the same sex. So gender pay differences is not relevant to deciding who is the bread winning you bloody moron.

Who said it was, blockhead. Normally favor goes to the one who pulls in more income within the family. Damn your head is so thick, you can cut it like cheese.

PhilX

[Arising_uk]

In the US, women are paid at the rate of $.79 on the dollar that men make so that helps to define the breadwinner.

PhilX

How? Are you saying 79% buys no bread?

We define the breadwinner as the one who can support the family upon their income. In many families now-a-days one income does not do that so the woman's income is much needed and as such this 'breadwinner' with 'favours' is an anachronism.

[Philosophy Explorer]

In the US, women are paid at the rate of $.79 on the dollar that men make so that helps to define the breadwinner.

PhilX

How? Are you saying 79% buys no bread?

We define the breadwinner as the one who can support the family upon their income. In many families now-a-days one income does not do that so the woman's income is much needed and as such this 'breadwinner' with 'favours' is an anachronism.

Within the family, the one who pulls in the most income normally gets favored (e.g. living close to the job) as that person contributes more financial stability to the family so the partner who pulls in less has a minor role, financially speaking.

PhilX

[Arising_uk]

20%? Hardly the breadwinner. Still, I think I understand this attitude as I have girl friends who live in mid-west America and they say it's like living in the 50's.

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Within the family, the one who pulls in the most income normally gets favored (e.g. living close to the job) as that person contributes more financial stability to the family so the partner who pulls in less has a minor role, financially speaking.

PhilX

You mean, families move to where the highest-paying work is?
Well, yes, if they can. If the person having that job is a man, it's more likely to happen. Also if the husband in a heterosexual marriage is offered a job that pays less, but he wants it. If it's the wife who has an opportunity for career advancement, odds are, the family stays put. If she's offered a good job and he's unemployed, they still won't move, unless he wants to.
These considerations do not obtain in a same-sex marriage. Different dynamics do.

Did you really think any domestic or intimate roles were about money?

[Philosophy Explorer]

Within the family, the one who pulls in the most income normally gets favored (e.g. living close to the job) as that person contributes more financial stability to the family so the partner who pulls in less has a minor role, financially speaking.

PhilX

You mean, families move to where the highest-paying work is?
Well, yes, if they can. If the person having that job is a man, it's more likely to happen. Also if the husband in a heterosexual marriage is offered a job that pays less, but he wants it. If it's the wife who has an opportunity for career advancement, odds are, the family stays put. If she's offered a good job and he's unemployed, they still won't move, unless he wants to.
These considerations do not obtain in a same-sex marriage. Different dynamics do.

Did you really think any domestic or intimate roles were about money?

Money is the number one factor in a marriage followed by kids according to surveys (do you watch Family Feud?) Here's an interesting question - do you think a gay marriage is more likely to break up as they don't produce children?

PhilX

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Money is the number one factor in a marriage

In causing discord, yes. In establishing domestic or gender roles, no. If the man in a heterosexual marriage loses his job while the woman remains employed, he does not become the wife. If the man is lazy real estate agent and the woman is a busy accountant, she still doesn't dictate the domestic roles - and probably doesn't even try.

followed by kids according to surveys

What sort of "factor"? Factor in what process? Does the presence or absence, number, age, sex or provenance of children determine who is the wife and who is the husband? I don't think Family Feud has tackled that one.

Here's an interesting question - do you think a gay marriage is more likely to break up as they don't produce children?

Of course not. Any more than lack of offspring breaks up heterosexual marriages. And who says same sex couple don't have children?

Where have you been living?





((do you watch Family Feud?) Now there is a source of statistical information I would not have thought of!