Based on this, it sounds like quantum computing is around the corner

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Philosophy Explorer wrote:
More important than that is what can result from quantum computing
There are two fundamental differences between classical and quantum computers. They are with regard to information
processing and cyber security. So a quantum computer can calculate to a significantly higher order of magnitude than a
classical one. And can also send any encrypted message which cannot be intercepted because of quantum improbability
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surreptitious57 wrote:
Philosophy Explorer wrote:
More important than that is what can result from quantum computing
There are two fundamental differences between classical and quantum computers. They are with regard to information
processing and cyber security. So a quantum computer can calculate to a significantly higher order of magnitude than a
classical one. And can also send any encrypted message which cannot be intercepted because of quantum improbability
Bunkum.

If a massage can be decrypted by a Quantum computer then it can be intercepted by another Quantum computer. If it cannot then there would be no point sending it in the first place.
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Hobbes Choice wrote:
If a message can be decrypted by a Quantum computer then it can be intercepted by another Quantum computer
A message can only be read by the one it is being sent to not any one else as determined
by quantum improbability. But if however you think that quantum improbability does not
exist and you can prove this too then the worlds physicists will be very interested indeed
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surreptitious57 wrote:
Hobbes Choice wrote:
If a message can be decrypted by a Quantum computer then it can be intercepted by another Quantum computer
A message can only be read by the one it is being sent to not any one else as determined
by quantum improbability. But if however you think that quantum improbability does not
exist and you can prove this too then the worlds physicists will be very interested indeed
You are talking nonsense.
It's got nothing to do with the existence or non existence of Q improbability. It's your thinking that is bogus.
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Hobbes Choice wrote:
It has got nothing to do with the existence or non existence of Q improbability
Then do you think that a quantum computer cannot use quantum improbability
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surreptitious57 wrote:
Hobbes Choice wrote:
It has got nothing to do with the existence or non existence of Q improbability
Then do you think that a quantum computer cannot use quantum improbability
I think I am wasting my time with you.
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Hobbes Choice wrote:
I think I am wasting my time with you
Not if you actually answer the question
But maybe you do not know the answer
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Still getting closer to a quantum computer (if one doesn't exist yet):

http://m.phys.org/news/2015-11-physicis ... trons.html

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surreptitious57 wrote:
Philosophy Explorer wrote:
More important than that is what can result from quantum computing
There are two fundamental differences between classical and quantum computers. They are with regard to information
processing and cyber security. So a quantum computer can calculate to a significantly higher order of magnitude than a
classical one. And can also send any encrypted message which cannot be intercepted because of quantum improbability
This is pure nonsense and babble, those are the theoretical outcome of a super quantum computer, it hasn't been realized yet.
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surreptitious57 wrote:
Hobbes Choice wrote:
I think I am wasting my time with you
Not if you actually answer the question
But maybe you do not know the answer
Hi surreptitious,

Let me restate the question more forcefully. How close are we to a quantum computer?

Leaving aside D-Wave for the moment, it's been reported
that all the major obstacles to a quantum computer have been cleared and we can expect to see one in the next five to ten years. With D-Wave, it's been reported that they probably have a quantum computer. A MIT expert professor claims that D-Wave doesn't have it on the basis of testing that is said to be the wrong type to compare D-Wave's computer with a conventional one. Then it's also reported that both Google and NASA are involved with D-Wave with an announcement to be made by Google on 12/8 concerning D-Wave. My speculation is that this announcement will say something about further testing that was done with D-Wave's computer as the former testing is said to be inconclusive.

Certainly not babble and nonsense.

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When quantum computers start to replace classical ones it will be a major paradigm shift just as classical computers were
when they started to become popular back in the day. And the ramifications of this will be as much social as technological
because of the way information can be more securely stored and accessed. This however shall be a double edged sword as
those with ulterior motive such as paedophiles or terrorists can use it to their advantage as much as any one else. Now we
already have the dark web that is immune to any external detection. But with quantum it will be on another level entirely
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surreptitious57 wrote:When quantum computers start to replace classical ones it will be a major paradigm shift just as classical computers were
when they started to become popular back in the day. And the ramifications of this will be as much social as technological
because of the way information can be more securely stored and accessed. This however shall be a double edged sword as
those with ulterior motive such as paedophiles or terrorists can use it to their advantage as much as any one else. Now we
already have the dark web that is immune to any external detection. But with quantum it will be on another level entirely
Methinks you are absorbing too much government propaganda. The day after the Paris attacks, government officials were telling credulous reporters how evil and dangerous encryption is ... even though it turns out the Paris terrorists did not use any encryption.
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wtf wrote:
surreptitious57 wrote:
When quantum computers start to replace classical ones it will be a major paradigm shift just as classical computers were
when they started to become popular back in the day. And the ramifications of this will be as much social as technological
because of the way information can be more securely stored and accessed. This however shall be a double edged sword as
those with ulterior motive such as paedophiles or terrorists can use it to their advantage as much as any one else. Now we
already have the dark web that is immune to any external detection. But with quantum it will be on another level entirely
Methinks you are absorbing too much government propaganda. The day after the Paris attacks government officials were telling
credulous reporters how evil and dangerous encryption is even though it turns out the Paris terrorists did not use any encryption
The dark web is used by criminals who cannot be tracked on it and that is an acknowledged fact not government propaganda
You seriously think that terrorists do not use the internet ? The fact of the matter is that they use it as much as any one does
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Google makes the announcement:

http://9to5google.com/2015/12/08/google ... lly-works/

Still a few loose ends which will be tightened up by subsequent announcements. So much for the MIT expert.
I count this day as the first day of the age of quantum computing.

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