Is it moral for God to punish us?

[Harbal]

You seem to be loosing the plot. Are you clinically insane? Have you stopped taking the pills?

Very witty and intelligent, Hobbes. You never write stupid posts, do you?

[Harbal]

When it comes to God you know fuck all, so stop wasting my time with what 'seems' to be applicable to your ignorant mind.

Fish Pie is right, Lacewing, you shouldn't waste his time. He's proved himself more than capable of wasting his own time and requires no assistance.

[Lacewing]

When it comes to God you know fuck all, so stop wasting my time with what 'seems' to be applicable to your ignorant mind.

Fish Pie is right, Lacewing, you shouldn't waste his time. He's proved himself more than capable of wasting his own time and requires no assistance.

Yes, it looks like he's talking to HIMSELF.

[Hobbes' Choice]

You seem to be loosing the plot. Are you clinically insane? Have you stopped taking the pills?

Very witty and intelligent, Hobbes. You never write stupid posts, do you?

True. This is the least silly post you have yet written,

[Harbal]

True. This is the least silly post you have yet written,

I've decided to save you for later.

[artisticsolution]

I think since God is not here to defend himself, it is he who may be being punished by us....retribution for abandoning us , I suppose. But then most people only think about the harm done to them, not the harm they do to others.

[Hobbes' Choice]

I think since God is not here to defend himself, it is he who may be being punished by us....retribution for abandoning us , I suppose. But then most people only think about the harm done to them, not the harm they do to others.

An omnipotent god cannot be punished.
An ultimate being can not desire or need or want.
An omnipresent god cannot be "not here to defend himself"
God cannot be "him" or "her".

[Jaded Sage]

The proper punishment for not knowing something is having to learn it from the one who does. If this is the type of way God punishes, then He has a moral obligation to punish us.

[attofishpi]

I think since God is not here to defend himself, it is he who may be being punished by us....retribution for abandoning us , I suppose. But then most people only think about the harm done to them, not the harm they do to others.

An omnipotent god cannot be punished.
An ultimate being can not desire or need or want.
An omnipresent god cannot be "not here to defend himself"
God cannot be "him" or "her".

Oh shit, i hate having to say this, but you are right on almost every point.

[attofishpi]

Why don't you just answer the original question. Do you think God would be morally justified to condemn a man to reincarnate as the beast, if this man raped and murdered a twelve year old girl?

I did not answer because I do not know what the beast is.

Reincarnated as something delicious such as a pig or cow.

I also do not believe in reincarnation.

I'm still confused by your posts. Are you an atheist?

If it is some type of balance of karma you are inferring then that man would need to be raped and killed and I cannot see a God playing such foolish balancing games.

No. I stated that a man may have lost his right to be man.

Give a question closer to reality and I will respond in kind.

Do you consider yourself an intelligent sentient being with enough understanding as to what is right and wrong when it comes to dealing with a twelve year old girl? If so would you accept that you no longer have the right to be a man if you raped and murdered this twelve year old girl?

[Hobbes' Choice]

I think since God is not here to defend himself, it is he who may be being punished by us....retribution for abandoning us , I suppose. But then most people only think about the harm done to them, not the harm they do to others.

An omnipotent god cannot be punished.
An ultimate being can not desire or need or want.
An omnipresent god cannot be "not here to defend himself"
God cannot be "him" or "her".

Oh shit, i hate having to say this, but you are right on almost every point.

Thank you. Since you know this, I find myself puzzled by some of the things you have said about 'god'.
Which of these characteristics do you think apply to your god, and which do not?

[attofishpi]

An omnipotent god cannot be punished.
An ultimate being can not desire or need or want.
An omnipresent god cannot be "not here to defend himself"
God cannot be "him" or "her".

Oh shit, i hate having to say this, but you are right on almost every point.

Thank you. Since you know this, I find myself puzzled by some of the things you have said about 'god'.
Which of these characteristics do you think apply to your god, and which do not?

I don't understand what you mean by 'your god' Are you questioning the characteristics that apply to God?

[Greatest I am]

I think since God is not here to defend himself, it is he who may be being punished by us....retribution for abandoning us , I suppose. But then most people only think about the harm done to them, not the harm they do to others.

If we are all children of God as some of the literature says we are then God is the greatest Deadbeat Dad imaginable.

Oh well. He is said to be the Alpha of all attributes, good and evil.

Regards
DL

[Greatest I am]

I think since God is not here to defend himself, it is he who may be being punished by us....retribution for abandoning us , I suppose. But then most people only think about the harm done to them, not the harm they do to others.

An omnipotent god cannot be punished.
An ultimate being can not desire or need or want.
An omnipresent god cannot be "not here to defend himself"
God cannot be "him" or "her".

God cannot. That cannot be said of an all powerful entity but we know that God is a myth so we can say anything we like about it and the lying religious con men have.

And some are stupid enough to believe the B.S.

Regards
DL

[Greatest I am]

The proper punishment for not knowing something is having to learn it from the one who does. If this is the type of way God punishes, then He has a moral obligation to punish us.

I agree with your last but not your first.

Perhaps this link explains the pleasures of losing a debate or learning something new better than I can. That would not make learning a punishment but a reward.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTN9Nx8 ... e=youtu.be

Regards
DL