Never regret, Never apologise.

[Hobbes' Choice]

Here's another example.
David Cameron made specific pledges before the election in May, to preserve tax credits for those with children.

On the FIRST budget after winning the election, he has cut the tax credits which will steal £1300 per year of the most vulnerable in society.
SO what is the point of THIS?
https://you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/ ... 1445507516

[Vor]

Aboriginal academic Marcia Langton suggested that a formal apology would achieve two things: firstly it will aid in the restoration of a sense of dignity and legitimacy to those who have suffered, and secondly it will acknowledge the serious harm done by previous governments to a class of people on the grounds of their race.

Perhaps that is why the responsibility for the Holocaust is the subject of an ongoing historical debate spanning several decades and is a burning quest for justice and revenge

[Hobbes' Choice]

Just because my skin is the same colour as some slaver from the 18thC does not mean that an apology from me, would mean anything.
And since my skin colour is the same as those in the UK that made slavery illegal does that mean I get to take credit for abolishionism?


The people who need to apologise, and have responsibility for the holocaust are DEAD. To make a modern German apologise is the reify the status of the very racism which was at fault in the first place


This all underlines the role of apologising as the act of a child who needs to adjust his behaviour. That is the only useful function - to teach a child to acknowledge a thing they have done wrong.

[Vor]

Hobbes wrote:

This all underlines the role of apologising as the act of a child who needs to adjust his behaviour. That is the only useful function - to teach a child to acknowledge a thing they have done wrong.

and what is the useful function - to teach an adult

To not regret and to not apologise.

What sort of an example is this to the child.

Do what I say, but not what I do.

[Hobbes' Choice]

Hobbes wrote:

This all underlines the role of apologising as the act of a child who needs to adjust his behaviour. That is the only useful function - to teach a child to acknowledge a thing they have done wrong.

and what is the useful function - to teach an adult

To not regret and to not apologise.

What sort of an example is this to the child.

Do what I say, but not what I do.

Growing up means acting with thought, and taking responsibility for your actions. Kids get off without punishment with an apology. That is not a state of affairs that is desirable for adults who need to think before they act.

Growing up means to act without the needs to regret.
Non regrette rien, as the song goes.


Grow the fuck up!

[SpheresOfBalance]

We'll both be stubborn assholes. [/color]

You are a clueless wanker, not fit to mention by brother.
You mentioned your brother, dipshit! ]

I was talking to someone else. You butted in with you helpful piece of shit.

Then why was it attached to my message?

Are we ever going to bury the hatchet, Hobbes' Choice???? I can dance this kind of dance forever. Or I can dance to a different tune. It all depends on my partner! I think in all honesty, you prefer this tune.

[SpheresOfBalance]

Hobbes wrote:

This all underlines the role of apologising as the act of a child who needs to adjust his behaviour. That is the only useful function - to teach a child to acknowledge a thing they have done wrong.

and what is the useful function - to teach an adult

To not regret and to not apologise.

What sort of an example is this to the child.

Do what I say, but not what I do.

Growing up means acting with thought, and taking responsibility for your actions. Kids get off without punishment with an apology.
Only in your twisted classroom. Who says that an apology necessarily forgoes additional punishment? The apology is a punishment, in and of itself, sure, as it causes one to face humility, an important lesson, in and of itself, by the way. But any teachers that then insists that no additional punishment is necessary, are creating both kids that don't mean their apologies and repeat offenders. It's that kind of flawed thinking that's the problem.


That is not a state of affairs that is desirable for adults who need to think before they act.

Growing up means to act without the needs to regret.
Bull shit, there is no such thing as a perfect human, that never errs. Everyone makes mistakes, you make tons of them. Regret and apology is how you atone for those mistakes as well as learn not to make them again. If you don't regret and apologize for your treading on another, you shall just perpetuate the problem, because you can believe you've gotten away with it.

You're a screwy fuck aren't you?

Non regrette rien, as the song goes.


Grow the fuck up!
Yeah, grow the fuck up and regret your fuckups so as to learn not to make them again, and apologize for treading on another, as they certainly didn't deserve it, it's the least you can do.

You better never actually physically tread on me boy, as you shall certainly regret it, and shall certainly follow with a whimpering apology, that I won't even have to ask for, and you certainly shall never do it again!

Boy do you have your head up your ass! You certainly deserve the most fucked up teacher award.

[Walker]

Smart people, who are mindful and aware never have to apologise. Get out of that Christian blame/shame culture, there ain't no god to punish you, so grow up.

Apologies.

When the shit hits the fan and something goes wrong apologies are empty. They can only be a response to two things: 1) an admission of guilt, or 2) an admission of a lack of maturity.
I can think of no thing, which I have done that would ever deserve an apology. Were I to apologise for something I'd be admitting that I intended to do wrong. Well I have reached an age that if I intend to do wrong, then I damn well mean it, if not then the thing I am being asked to apologise for was an unintended consequence of an act I did NOT intend. Well If I did not intend it, then why would I want to apologise. How would an apology help? What is the function of an apology? Apologies are for children. They make them reflect on unwise action; they make them feel small and vulnerable in order that the child will reflect and change his ways. For an adult, no apology ought ever to be necessary. When things happen I EXPLAIN, I never apologise.

Regret.

Regrets are much the same as guilt trips that require apologies. Things can go wrong and you make mistakes. But a "mistake" is by nature unintended. When you screw up, and if you are mature, you have acted in the best possible way given your circumstances. No one intends to screw-up. If you do then why regret your decisions? At any given moment you pays your money and you makes your choice. Why would you want to regret a choice that YOU made? If you don't like it: reflect, learn., move on! Regret is an empty emotion that serves no purpose but self indulgence. I've known people who have regretted something for decades. WHY? Do Something about it! But stop bleating. Take control of your present. Move on. TO regret, is to regret who you are. You made the choice - live with it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFtGfyruroU

You will always have regrets as long as you are a human being. How you express your regrets defines your functioning level of reality awareness. Apology is self-serving, though it means well in the sense that somewhere in the motivation to action, there is a desire to alleviate the suffering of the other. But if your expression, minus apology, elevates the soul of the hearer, so that your expression transcends the self-serving nature of apology, then your regret serves to remove your portion of humanity’s blindness, which is admirable. And after all, attention freely given to the source of regret is apology enough. It gets a little more complicated with regret that cannot be reconciled, as in unreconciled differences with those who have shed the mortal sheath. In these cases, the direction of attention falls to the mystries of wu wei. - Cec

[Hobbes' Choice]

Smart people, who are mindful and aware never have to apologise. Get out of that Christian blame/shame culture, there ain't no god to punish you, so grow up.

Apologies.

When the shit hits the fan and something goes wrong apologies are empty. They can only be a response to two things: 1) an admission of guilt, or 2) an admission of a lack of maturity.
I can think of no thing, which I have done that would ever deserve an apology. Were I to apologise for something I'd be admitting that I intended to do wrong. Well I have reached an age that if I intend to do wrong, then I damn well mean it, if not then the thing I am being asked to apologise for was an unintended consequence of an act I did NOT intend. Well If I did not intend it, then why would I want to apologise. How would an apology help? What is the function of an apology? Apologies are for children. They make them reflect on unwise action; they make them feel small and vulnerable in order that the child will reflect and change his ways. For an adult, no apology ought ever to be necessary. When things happen I EXPLAIN, I never apologise.

Regret.

Regrets are much the same as guilt trips that require apologies. Things can go wrong and you make mistakes. But a "mistake" is by nature unintended. When you screw up, and if you are mature, you have acted in the best possible way given your circumstances. No one intends to screw-up. If you do then why regret your decisions? At any given moment you pays your money and you makes your choice. Why would you want to regret a choice that YOU made? If you don't like it: reflect, learn., move on! Regret is an empty emotion that serves no purpose but self indulgence. I've known people who have regretted something for decades. WHY? Do Something about it! But stop bleating. Take control of your present. Move on. TO regret, is to regret who you are. You made the choice - live with it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFtGfyruroU

You will always have regrets as long as you are a human being. How you express your regrets defines your functioning level of reality awareness. Apology is self-serving, though it means well in the sense that somewhere in the motivation to action, there is a desire to alleviate the suffering of the other. But if your expression, minus apology, elevates the soul of the hearer, so that your expression transcends the self-serving nature of apology, then your regret serves to remove your portion of humanity’s blindness, which is admirable. And after all, attention freely given to the source of regret is apology enough. It gets a little more complicated with regret that cannot be reconciled, as in unreconciled differences with those who have shed the mortal sheath. In these cases, the direction of attention falls to the mystries of wu wei. - Cec

No - "YOU" might have regrets, but I do not. Regrets are for children or foolish adults who think they can have it their own way. Owning a failure is the best way to learn, regretting has not function.

I cannot respect a person that demands an apology rather than seek an explanation and assurance that any act that seems to have gone wrong was not an intended harm.

[Hobbes' Choice]

Boy do you have your head up your ass!

Grow the fuck up!

[Walker]

Smart people, who are mindful and aware never have to apologise. Get out of that Christian blame/shame culture, there ain't no god to punish you, so grow up.

Apologies.

When the shit hits the fan and something goes wrong apologies are empty. They can only be a response to two things: 1) an admission of guilt, or 2) an admission of a lack of maturity.
I can think of no thing, which I have done that would ever deserve an apology. Were I to apologise for something I'd be admitting that I intended to do wrong. Well I have reached an age that if I intend to do wrong, then I damn well mean it, if not then the thing I am being asked to apologise for was an unintended consequence of an act I did NOT intend. Well If I did not intend it, then why would I want to apologise. How would an apology help? What is the function of an apology? Apologies are for children. They make them reflect on unwise action; they make them feel small and vulnerable in order that the child will reflect and change his ways. For an adult, no apology ought ever to be necessary. When things happen I EXPLAIN, I never apologise.

Regret.

Regrets are much the same as guilt trips that require apologies. Things can go wrong and you make mistakes. But a "mistake" is by nature unintended. When you screw up, and if you are mature, you have acted in the best possible way given your circumstances. No one intends to screw-up. If you do then why regret your decisions? At any given moment you pays your money and you makes your choice. Why would you want to regret a choice that YOU made? If you don't like it: reflect, learn., move on! Regret is an empty emotion that serves no purpose but self indulgence. I've known people who have regretted something for decades. WHY? Do Something about it! But stop bleating. Take control of your present. Move on. TO regret, is to regret who you are. You made the choice - live with it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFtGfyruroU

You will always have regrets as long as you are a human being. How you express your regrets defines your functioning level of reality awareness. Apology is self-serving, though it means well in the sense that somewhere in the motivation to action, there is a desire to alleviate the suffering of the other. But if your expression, minus apology, elevates the soul of the hearer, so that your expression transcends the self-serving nature of apology, then your regret serves to remove your portion of humanity’s blindness, which is admirable. And after all, attention freely given to the source of regret is apology enough. It gets a little more complicated with regret that cannot be reconciled, as in unreconciled differences with those who have shed the mortal sheath. In these cases, the direction of attention falls to the mystries of wu wei. - Cec

No - "YOU" might have regrets, but I do not. Regrets are for children or foolish adults who think they can have it their own way. Owning a failure is the best way to learn, regretting has not function.

I cannot respect a person that demands an apology rather than seek an explanation and assurance that any act that seems to have gone wrong was not an intended harm.

Yeah to reiterate, apologies are kind of silly and serve as a bandaid form of absolving guilt. If one is inclined to live by mottos, then never explain and never complain shifts the attention away from self-cherishing and allows one to behave appropriately in whatever the situation may be.

[SpheresOfBalance]

Boy do you have your head up your ass!

Grow the fuck up!

Oh yes, and this coming from one whose penis is only to be found in his choice of automobiles.

It's you that needs to grow up, son!

[SpheresOfBalance]

Smart people, who are mindful and aware never have to apologise. Get out of that Christian blame/shame culture, there ain't no god to punish you, so grow up.

Apologies.

When the shit hits the fan and something goes wrong apologies are empty. They can only be a response to two things: 1) an admission of guilt, or 2) an admission of a lack of maturity.
I can think of no thing, which I have done that would ever deserve an apology. Were I to apologise for something I'd be admitting that I intended to do wrong. Well I have reached an age that if I intend to do wrong, then I damn well mean it, if not then the thing I am being asked to apologise for was an unintended consequence of an act I did NOT intend. Well If I did not intend it, then why would I want to apologise. How would an apology help? What is the function of an apology? Apologies are for children. They make them reflect on unwise action; they make them feel small and vulnerable in order that the child will reflect and change his ways. For an adult, no apology ought ever to be necessary. When things happen I EXPLAIN, I never apologise.

Regret.

Regrets are much the same as guilt trips that require apologies. Things can go wrong and you make mistakes. But a "mistake" is by nature unintended. When you screw up, and if you are mature, you have acted in the best possible way given your circumstances. No one intends to screw-up. If you do then why regret your decisions? At any given moment you pays your money and you makes your choice. Why would you want to regret a choice that YOU made? If you don't like it: reflect, learn., move on! Regret is an empty emotion that serves no purpose but self indulgence. I've known people who have regretted something for decades. WHY? Do Something about it! But stop bleating. Take control of your present. Move on. TO regret, is to regret who you are. You made the choice - live with it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFtGfyruroU

You will always have regrets as long as you are a human being. How you express your regrets defines your functioning level of reality awareness. Apology is self-serving, though it means well in the sense that somewhere in the motivation to action, there is a desire to alleviate the suffering of the other. But if your expression, minus apology, elevates the soul of the hearer, so that your expression transcends the self-serving nature of apology, then your regret serves to remove your portion of humanity’s blindness, which is admirable. And after all, attention freely given to the source of regret is apology enough. It gets a little more complicated with regret that cannot be reconciled, as in unreconciled differences with those who have shed the mortal sheath. In these cases, the direction of attention falls to the mystries of wu wei. - Cec

No - "YOU" might have regrets, but I do not. Regrets are for children or foolish adults who think they can have it their own way. Owning a failure is the best way to learn, regretting has not function.

I cannot respect a person that demands an apology rather than seek an explanation and assurance that any act that seems to have gone wrong was not an intended harm.

Yeah to reiterate, apologies are kind of silly and serve as a bandaid form of absolving guilt. If one is inclined to live by mottos, then never explain and never complain shifts the attention away from self-cherishing and allows one to behave appropriately in whatever the situation may be.

The way I see your bit above:
"In some cases, ...apologies can be kind of silly and serve as a bandaid form of absolving guilt. However, If one is inclined to live by mottos, then never explain and never complain, is only ever to do with self-cherishing, that they can do no wrong, it's the way they're made, and allows one to behave inappropriately in whatever the situation may be, so as to serve their ego. BMW, anyone?

[Hobbes' Choice]

Does SoB know I have him on ignore?

[SpheresOfBalance]

Does SoB know I have him on ignore?

Of course I know what it is that you say, and that it is in fact different from what you actually do.

Either way I could care less of your fear.