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I feel content.


...even, if at any time, I am banned here.


Feel sorry for people like you. Anyone who pushes the envelope - really pushes the envelope, you are frightened of.

You fear me and I still, to this day, do not understand why.


Saved your ass many times - even took you in as my apprentice for a while...


Still, no respect. It's just not in you.




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Arising_uk wrote:
Pluto wrote:It makes sense that it's a hoax, we can lump it all together with the other problems. To do globalisation you need a smoke-screen, that is the fox in the chicken house, while you're not looking, the floor has been removed. It enables leverage too.
Just conspiracy nonsense, that disaster capitalism may exist is one thing but to think you could fake all the science is just plain unlikely.
There is so much fake science and there has been too make false pronouncements from the IPCC to take them seriously anymore.
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Bill Wiltrack wrote:.
I feel content.
Why would you think this of any interest to others?
...even, if at any time, I am banned here.
See above.
Feel sorry for people like you. Anyone who pushes the envelope - really pushes the envelope, you are frightened of.
Save your pity for yourself as it is you who needs it as you are delusional that you are pushing anything.
You fear me and I still, to this day, do not understand why.
Like I said, delusional.
Saved your ass many times - even took you in as my apprentice for a while...
Delusional.
Still, no respect. It's just not in you.
For sure it is but I save it for those who can philosophise.
Everyone bites at my heels. Somehow I wouldn't want it any other way.[/size]
Because it's what feeds your delusions and you get off on these.
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Hobbes' Choice wrote:
Arising_uk wrote:
Pluto wrote:It makes sense that it's a hoax, we can lump it all together with the other problems. To do globalisation you need a smoke-screen, that is the fox in the chicken house, while you're not looking, the floor has been removed. It enables leverage too.
Just conspiracy nonsense, that disaster capitalism may exist is one thing but to think you could fake all the science is just plain unlikely.
There is so much fake science and there has been too make false pronouncements from the IPCC to take them seriously anymore.
AUK,
...plain unlikely
. Yes of course it is in your world, but not at all to those who can and perhaps must, as an historical necessity, create, your reality. The architects of reality, are content in your created ceiling of thought. You live in the micro world, which gets its meaning from those who inhabit the macro. Of course you're going to see things differently from where you are. But your frame of what's likely has nothing to do with the frame of what's possible, inhabited by those who (attempt to) control the world. It's designed that way. A number of tiers, in one not all is thought possible, in another, things open up a bit, etc.
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Pluto wrote:Yes of course it is in your world, but not at all to those who can and perhaps must, as an historical necessity, create, your reality. ...
But in my reality I'm a bit of an old historical materialist so those who by necessity create my reality are everyone else. I say a bit because whilst I reject your 'great men' of History angle I do think that in the tides of historical humanity there are moments where the individual plays their part and depending upon which individual gets the role the future shape of history is changed.
The architects of reality, are content in your created ceiling of thought. ...
I don't think these 'architects of reality' exist in any meaningful historical sense but for sure there are those who might think they are but from what I can see they're not very good at it as they seem to fail all the time and not in control of events at all.
You live in the micro world, which gets its meaning from those who inhabit the macro. Of course you're going to see things differently from where you are. But your frame of what's likely has nothing to do with the frame of what's possible, inhabited by those who (attempt to) control the world. It's designed that way. A number of tiers, in one not all is thought possible, in another, things open up a bit, etc.
Ever thought that if what you think is true then you'd not know about it and if what you think isn't true you'd still think it was? Cock-up theory not conspiracy.
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Pluto and A-uk - do you think you are really debating anything here?
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Hobbes' Choice wrote:Pluto and A-uk - do you think you are really debating anything here?
Sure, conspiracy versus cock-up theory.
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Debating is the problem.
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Within the system that we live is it very hard to see outside of it. An historical legacy of containing the mass through man himself is real. We on here are the mass man to be led. Our ideas and view of life have been mostly given to you from up on high. Your vision of the world is sat within the room that you have been appointed to.

Up or even down in the depths of life do the makers make. The world does exist as an agent itself, but man frames and positions natural events in power's favour as of old. We think modern yet continue mud brain of first man. We moderns. Every epoch is modern to the last.

A narrative must be put forward by leader man for the mass. The world is meaningless, or at least for now unknowable. The leaders of life have to create the narrative. Like days of old with religion, today it is the same, but is rather creations that may help in the present. We are making it up as we go. The world itself has agency but we interpret it in a way that reignites the continuation of the project man.

The idea that the earth is sick because of us is a power idea to denigrate the idea of being a person. A destruction is in place of man by power. Why is the question.
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Arising_uk wrote:
Hobbes' Choice wrote:Pluto and A-uk - do you think you are really debating anything here?
Sure, conspiracy versus cock-up theory.
I'm not sure which is more compelling.

Climate "science" from both sides seems at the mercy of belief more than any other area of empirical investigation.
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Sure, conspiracy versus cock-up theory.
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Arising_uk wrote:
Bill Wiltrack wrote:
AK, don't feed the Troll.
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thedoc wrote:AK, don't feed the Troll.
Feed who I like thanks and always unsure you can have a troll in a philosophy forum.
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Arising_uk wrote:
thedoc wrote:AK, don't feed the Troll.
Feed who I like thanks and always unsure you can have a troll in a philosophy forum.
Trolls can exist anywhere, it all depends on how tolerant the moderators are. After all they let me in.
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