How to prove existence to an ever negating person?
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eljockey101
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How to prove existence to an ever negating person?
Examples:
You say: "I think therefore I am'
Ever negating person: "Thoughts are not. I am not."
You say: "You are negating therefore you are"
Ever negating person: "Negation is not. I am not. Existence is not."
etc....
Suppose there is a person who denies, negates everything. How to prove to him his existence?
You say: "I think therefore I am'
Ever negating person: "Thoughts are not. I am not."
You say: "You are negating therefore you are"
Ever negating person: "Negation is not. I am not. Existence is not."
etc....
Suppose there is a person who denies, negates everything. How to prove to him his existence?
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Impenitent
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Re: How to prove existence to an ever negating person?
cut off his head
if he tries to stop you, he exists; if he doesn't, well then I guess he doesn't exist...
-Imp
if he tries to stop you, he exists; if he doesn't, well then I guess he doesn't exist...
-Imp
Re: How to prove existence to an ever negating person?
Agree with him: "You convinced me. You don't exist." and walk by as if he didn't.
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Dalek Prime
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Re: How to prove existence to an ever negating person?
Medication may help some. Seeing as they don't exist, they shouldn't mind taking a scoop of them.
Oh, alright then. One or two every 8 hours, but don't call me in the morning. I feel negated before my first coffee.
Oh, alright then. One or two every 8 hours, but don't call me in the morning. I feel negated before my first coffee.
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Obvious Leo
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Re: How to prove existence to an ever negating person?
I'm with you, skip. I'd want the conversation over with as quickly as possible because I reckon watching my grass grow would be vastly more intellectually stimulating.Skip wrote:Agree with him: "You convinced me. You don't exist." and walk by as if he didn't.
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Dalek Prime
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Re: How to prove existence to an ever negating person?
I kick, therefore you hurt.
Rinse and repeat until they accept their circumstances.
Rinse and repeat until they accept their circumstances.
Re: How to prove existence to an ever negating person?
What is our culture devolving into? Is this not an overreaction to someone doubting his own existence?
I'd hate to see your response to an actual threat.cut off his head
I mean, if he said you don't exist, this might be more appropriate
though hardly necessary.I kick, therefore you hurt.
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Dalek Prime
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Re: How to prove existence to an ever negating person?
'Harder'? Oh, 'hardly'...Skip wrote:![]()
What is our culture devolving into? Is this not an overreaction to someone doubting his own existence?I'd hate to see your response to an actual threat.cut off his head
I mean, if he said you don't exist, this might be more appropriatethough hardly necessary.I kick, therefore you hurt.
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Re: How to prove existence to an ever negating person?
1) Strawman.eljockey101 wrote:Examples:
You say: "I think therefore I am'
Ever negating person: "Thoughts are not. I am not."
You say: "You are negating therefore you are"
Ever negating person: "Negation is not. I am not. Existence is not."
etc....
Suppose there is a person who denies, negates everything. How to prove to him his existence?
2) Negation is not is a contradiction; so is existence is not.
3) You need to get out more.
Re: How to prove existence to an ever negating person?
You have to think to say something, therefore he is.eljockey101 wrote:Examples:
You say: "I think therefore I am'
Ever negating person: "Thoughts are not. I am not."
You say: "You are negating therefore you are"
Ever negating person: "Negation is not. I am not. Existence is not."
etc....
Suppose there is a person who denies, negates everything. How to prove to him his existence?
Re: How to prove existence to an ever negating person?
Ask him if he ever bought toilet paper!
Re: How to prove existence to an ever negating person?
Why anyone would spend one second proving their existence is beyond me. If that has to be established, all statements can be refuted.
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Re: How to prove existence to an ever negating person?
Excellent.Impenitent wrote:cut off his head
if he tries to stop you, he exists; if he doesn't, well then I guess he doesn't exist...
-Imp
More to the point as you attempt to slice his head off he will (likely) come to the only reasonable conclusion, that yes HE exists!
Re: How to prove existence to an ever negating person?
This 'negating person' is not making an argument but just repeating a mantra. For a proper argument against existence check out the literature of mysticism. The fact is that existence cannot be proved even to a reasonable person. Hell, few people would even be able to define what they mean by it.